DW incomplete drain

[trader_4]

+1 Especially when it's not known what's wrong. Could be a plugged up drain hose.

That's my vote.

From the description it sounds like the first place to look would be a clogged drain hose between the DW and the disposal. Could also be clogged at the pump inlet. On my Kitchenaid, you can easily remove the lower arm, then the screen underneath and get to the pump intake. If it were mine, that's where I'd start, because it's easier than checking out the hose. On mine, you can turn the arm backwards while lifting up and it comes right off. But how the OP's comes apart, IDK. You can pull up parts diagrams at the online appliance parts stores that show how it's put together. That is often enough to figure out how it comes apart.

[Higgs Boson]

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cles, and over the special cycle? Maybe the timer is not runniing the pump long enough. Take the strainer out of the sink and see how long water is flowing vs how long you hear the pump running. Is the time different for w hen it drains completely and wwhen it does not drain completely?

ns at the unit and the water going into the disposal when it's pumping out. Strong stream that stops when the pump does?

l if stream was "strong"? Kept flowing was all I could see.

nother drain cycle did it. Worried that this might get worse. Wasn't like that before -- or -- (awful thought!) was it, and I didn't notice?? Possib le?

Just checking in re: flow. Earlier kind poster asked if it was a "strong s tream". How identify "strong" ? Really gushes rather then flows? I have n o base because I never looked in the past.

Recently have used "cancel/drain" to evacuate all water. As noted earlier, flow stops when pump stops. Sometimes I have had to do it 2x.

Thinking maybe this indicates pump is "weak". IOW, water is eventually eva cuated but takes a few cancel/drains.

Water observed flowing does not look "dirty".

If it IS pump, (a) is it an expensive repair (b) is it worth it (c) if not fixed, will it get worse

If not pump, then what?

TIA

(Oren, you commented elsewhere that I ask for help and then do not acknowle dge. Quite unfair!)

HB

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[Ed Pawlowski]

How old is the machine and how good overall is it? I'd guess that the repair is going to be in the $200 range. Worth it? You may get a better diagnostic though.

New machine is $500 to $2000. My KA was about $1600 but does a fantastic job.

[Higgs Boson]

evacuated but takes a few cancel/drains.

If it IS pump, (a) is it an expensive repair (b) is it worth it (c) if not fixed, will it get worse

Whirlpool DW is less than 2 years old. Was only about $600+ including inst allation. Went to complain, but company out of business.

Now realizing that it is a relative plastic POS compared with my old KA. I am so clueless that I stopped using the KA when it wouldn't let hot water in, thinking repairs would be too expen$ive. I handwashed for 2 years -

- didn't kill me -- and only had it replaced thinking new person in hom e needed it. Turns out it KA problem was just a ****ing HOSE which had bee n bitten by MOUSE! Would have been inexpensive and I'd still have my great old TANK!

I will beat myself up till the end of time for not thinking things through; making unwarranted assumptions.

Right now I'm asking NG whether drain should be a gusher or just a stream. May give clue as to "weakness"?? of pump.

Tx for your input

HB

[trader_4]

cycles, and over the special cycle? Maybe the timer is not runniing the pu mp long enough. Take the strainer out of the sink and see how long water i s flowing vs how long you hear the pump running. Is the time different for when it drains completely and wwhen it does not drain completely?

pens at the unit and the water going into the disposal when it's pumping ou t. Strong stream that stops when the pump does?

ell if stream was "strong"? Kept flowing was all I could see.

another drain cycle did it. Worried that this might get worse. Wasn't li ke that before -- or -- (awful thought!) was it, and I didn't notice?? Poss ible?

stream". How identify "strong" ? Really gushes rather then flows? I have no base because I never looked in the past.

r, flow stops when pump stops. Sometimes I have had to do it 2x.

vacuated but takes a few cancel/drains.

It would seem extremely unlikely for a 2 year old unit to have a "weak" pump. The only way I can see a pump becoming weak would be for some of the impeller blades breaking off, deteriorating away, etc. I've never seen that happen. A clogged drain hose, or passageway leading to or from the pump are the likely candidates.

[Ed Pawlowski]

And if you cannot find the problem yourself it may be time to call a pro. Most will charge $80 to $100. If the machine works OK otherwise, it may be worth the investment. If it was 12 years old, I'd consider a new one.

[Higgs Boson]

r cycles, and over the special cycle? Maybe the timer is not runniing the pump long enough. Take the strainer out of the sink and see how long water is flowing vs how long you hear the pump running. Is the time different f or when it drains completely and wwhen it does not drain completely?

appens at the unit and the water going into the disposal when it's pumping out. Strong stream that stops when the pump does?

tell if stream was "strong"? Kept flowing was all I could see.

t; another drain cycle did it. Worried that this might get worse. Wasn't like that before -- or -- (awful thought!) was it, and I didn't notice?? Po ssible? >

ng stream". How identify "strong" ? Really gushes rather then flows? I ha ve no base because I never looked in the past.

ier, flow stops when pump stops. Sometimes I have had to do it 2x.

evacuated but takes a few cancel/drains.

Thanks bot' a yiz guys.

Maybe I should stop ****ing around and call the damn appliance repair perso n! Money is so tight right now-- multiple car repair$ and house dittos -- that I was hoping I could go with the flow (baaaad pun) for a while.

BIG QUESTION -- dust off your crystal balls (snicker)-- is whether continui ng to run 2 cycles WILL LEAD TO MORE PROBLEMS.

Conjectures solicited.

HB

[Ed Pawlowski]

According to my (crystal) balls, I don't see it leading to problems, just wearing out a bit faster from use. If you have the time to keep an eye on the cycle, I'd put it through a normal wash and first rinse, cancel, then start it over with minimal detergent to be sure it rinses well. May take a bit of experimenting.