Dumpster Rental

Have you ever rented a dumpster? Where do you normally put it? On the driveway? In the backyard?
I am wondering whether I can put it inside the garage - out of sight, out of the rain, no chance of someone driving my and dumping their garbage on top of mine...I am just not sure how one would move it into the garage once they drop it off on the driveway.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
MC
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snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote:

I'm moving, and cleaning out the old house to make it ready for sale, so I rented a dumpster from the city. They put it on the street right next to the driveway. After someone in the neighborhood dumped some trash into it, I added a padlock to keep it from happening again. the dumpster has a cover which may not have a water-tight fit, but it would keep out most of the rain (although rain this time of year in Central Valley of California is not likely).
I think moving it to the garage would be pretty much impossible.
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:20:22 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote:

Maybe they will put it in the garage, but I don't think you can. Call them and ask.
Also ask if doing so or removing it will damage the floor. I'm not saying it will except that I see scratch marks sometimes where they have dragged a dumpster onto the back of the truck, as they often do when removing it. For that matter, if I had a nice driveway, or maybe any paved driveway, I would ask about whether it damages that. I'm sure they make one sign a contract which waives all claims for damages. What I don't know is if and how often damage is caused, and if it just goes away in a few weeks, if the weather makes a scratched surface match the rest of the surface.
Most of this is speculation. I"ve never rented a dumpster. I almost had to rent one to get a new roof, but by the time I hired the same guy, he had bought a small dump truck and put all of my old roof in the truck. Even then, I only have a townhouse with a parking lot and I've already ruined, until they pave again, the spot where I park with leaking oil.
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I did rent a dumpster not too long ago, they put it as far to the side of the driveway as they could get, but they did make me sign a release, and I had to be there when it was delivered since it was going in the driveway, otherwise they would have put it in the street. I imagine the release was for damage that could be caused to the driveway as you say, but I don't see how they could get it into the garage.
Cheri
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:32:38 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

Did you read it?
And did they leave any scrape marks?
I think some dumpsters have steel wheels at the rear end.

It depends I guess on the dumpster and the garage, and the garage door, but if the door is wide enough, can't they just back into the garage, and dump it as they drive out. Someone else also expressed doubts, but I don't know why that would be hard.

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mm wrote in message ...

No, I didn't read it, and no, it didn't leave any marks at all. This one didn't have wheels though, and keeping in mind that it wasn't one of those big construction type dumpsters, it was midsize really. They lifted it with forklift type things that are built into the trucks. It was delivered by a garbage truck which is pretty high, so they might be able to get it close to the garage door, but I don't see how they could actually get it in the garage. Dunno know for sure though.
Cheri
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BTW, I'm not recommending he put it in his garage, just answering his question.
And of course only dumpsters that will fit in the garage can be put in the garage.
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:20:22 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote:

Over the course of a twenty year renovation, I had many dumpsters. I had them dropped in the side yard, the back yard, and in the alley behind the property.
Setting a dumpster in an enclosed area would be very problematic, given the way they come off of the back of the truck. Retrieving them from an enclosed location would also be interesting, although I have seen them dragged (loaded) by the truck. I even had a situation where they had to send out two trucks to drag one that had sunk in the yard.
As for the nuts and bolts: A ten yard can is relatively small and could possibly live in your garage. A twenty yard can is long with relatively shallow sides. It could possibly be tilted off and pushed into the garage. Once you get to thirty yards. the garage thing is not going to happen. Forty yards...nah...drop it and hope for the best.
Remember, these things are slid off the back of the truck. Although they have wheels (like small rollers) they dig and gauge as they come down. When they pull them (loaded) up onto the truck, they like to leave ruts.
The property where I "subscribed" to dumpster service did not have any paved areas. There was a gravel parking area where I had one dropped off after Hurricane Floyd, and the alley in the rear was also a gravel surface. Those areas and the various places in the yard where I had these things parked always needed to be raked out when the thing was gone. But that was better than replacing or patching up a residential driveway.
Best advice (as mentioned before) tarp it and lock up the tailgate.
Good luck...Dumpsters are an experience. :-)
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Thanks.
My garage is 24' x 22' with two doors, each door 9' wide by 8' tall.
I was thinking of renting a 12' L x 8' W x 5' H so it should easily fit in there. I am not sure how to get it in there. These sizes do not have covers.
My other concerns is with stuff I plan to dump in it, sheet rock, insulation, appliances and other debris, with daily pouring rain in Miami, it will be very wet. I remember someone else rented one on the next blocks and they had kids passing by dumping other stuff in it including beer bottles, half eaten sandwiches, someone threw lawn chairs, plants etc...so with the rain, you end up with bugs, rodents etc...a mess. That's why I am thinking the garage is the better way to go.
I wonder if I line the floor with plywood sheets as aemeujers suggested, and ask them to unload onto the driveway can I slide it in? I think so...I am worried once it's filled up can I slide them out with the added weight.
MC
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No Way In Hell will you be able to bodily push or pull a rolloff into the garage flat on the ground- even empty, the thing is heavy. A rolloff isn't sheet metal, it is welded plate, akin to a giant dump truck bed. The wheels on one end only work when the other end is picked up. Anything heavy enough to brute-force it will crack the driveway all by itself. Highly doubt they will be able to spot it through a 9' opening- that truck is TALL when in drop/recover mode, and the dumpster itself is at about a 40 degree angle when the wheels hit the ground.
The waste company is used to questions like this- give them a call. You might be better off with a smaller dumpster, with a flip lid, picked up more often. Unless you have real long trash, or will generate a whole lot real fast, an apartment-style front-pickup may work as well as a rolloff for you. Explain the situation, and they will tell you what solutions they can offer. Lockable, lidded dumpsters to prevent midnight dumping, rodents, and rain weight, are pretty common.
If you need a rolloff, and they don't offer a lidded one, see if they will provide a tarp with it. Usually the hauler truck has one of those motorized automatic covers, but they may have some old-style tarps on hand. Or just buy a couple of the cheap blue tarps and some bungee cords. The outside of the rolloff should have plenty of places to hook them. The cheap tarps should work okay with the rolloff sitting still, unless you get a hurricane.
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:31:22 -0400, "MiamiCuse"

Don't all those things go away when the dumpster is removed? Until then the n'hood kids can use it as a biology lesson.

Like Cheri said, there are dumpsters that are lifted at the front of trucks and poured into the back. They often have 4 wheels.
I was under the impression that the usual temporary dumpster isn't like that and has no more than two, roller wheels, and that it was slid off the back of something like a flatbed, and then pulled back on by a winch on the same truck. (So that it would be easy to back into a garage, not that I'm saying this is a good idea. Ask the dumpster company. I see no reason they would be inclined to lie, if the think you'll rent it anyhow and put it on the curb.)

The apartment building near my house used to keep their dumpsters near their building, at the back door. But some of their tenants complained about the smell, and they moved them all about 60 feet away, and down a hill, at the edge of their parking lot, surrounded on 3 sides by a fence. They have about 4 of different sizes, and the two small ones, I've seen them move around, but they use a small electric fork lift, the kind that the driver walks behind, or in front of, and it has big batteries to lift the dumpster up a couple inches, and to power the wheels when the "driver" wants it to move.
These things are about 5 feet tall, by 5 feet wide, by 4 feet deep.
It's possible they don't really need the forklift, or only need it to go uphill.
If you want, I'll go out and try to push one. I'll measure it for you too if you say to. They seem heavy to me, but maybe I'm just misled by the appearance.
About a week ago, one was over on its back, and it stayed that way for at least a few hours. I think it would take several guys to right it.

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:31:22 -0400, "MiamiCuse"

My friend who runs the ministorage has a dumpster that is about 6x6x6, which is smaller than the dimensions you give. It has a lid on top and a sliding door on the side. Thinking about that one, I know there is no way I could move that one millimeter. She had to put in a cement or concrete pad for them to rest it on, because it was ruining the asphalt.
Come to think of it, they have a section between two rows of storage lockers where they also had to put in cement or concrete pad because they would park there for a while for some reason. I'll admit, I'm talking aobut the whole truck now, and this is a dumpster they dump into the truck, not a roll-off, but apparently they didn't damage the asphalt while the truck was moving, but when it parked in one place for a while, it did. Doesn't that sound strange?
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When the roofing company ordered the one for my tearoff, they laid 4 sheets of 3/4 exterior OSB at the landing spot. It was there ten days or so, and the waste company picked it up with no damage. My driveway is thin asphalt in crappy condition anyway, but I didn't see a mark. I think it was a 10 yard.
If you have a pretty driveway, 80 bucks or so for plywood seems like cheap insurance. Doesn't need to be pretty, just thick and dense. See if the lumberyard will sell you the protecter layers the bundles of pretty wood come wrapped in.
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plywood sheets sounds like a good idea. I will definitely look into it.
Thanks,
MC
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The truck that brings the dumpster will probably crack most existing driveways. I expect they will make you sign a disclaimer for any damage caused by any position you choose other than the public street. You really need to go watch them pick up a full 40 yard container. Go after a heavy rain to see the ruts from the truck, the container, and watch everyone pray that the truck can load the dumpster. :You ain't lived till you have to take material back off that dumpster either for being overloaded or over filled (they need to be able to tarp the top and will allow nothing above the side s).
You've not ever said what you are calling a dumpster. I think most of us are thinking 20 / 30 / 40 cubic yard. 40's have really tall side walls (about 8'), great for skid steers or roof tearoffs. a bit tougher to load from the ground.
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Can't agree with you that "The truck that delivers the dumpsters will crack most driveways". I have had 3-4 dumpsters dropped in my driveway over the years, and they didn't even have a waiver for me to sign. Of course, I have had a concrete truck in my driveway already, so a "roll off" truck is pretty light by comparison. (Not an asphalt driveway)
Working off the OP's measurements, I get 17 yards +/- but I suspect that the sides are sloped at the bottom and that this is really closer to a 12 yarder, which would be a standard size. (At least in my area) We have pushed dumpsters around with a skid steer pretty easily, but they were empty. Richard Davis and crew managed to lose control of a dumpster they were trying to move around, and it rolled down a hill and took out his brother's car.
To the point, I think you are going to have a hard time getting a dumpster company to put a box this size into your garage. They drop them at a pretty good angle, and I doubt they would clear the door.
The things that the neighborhood "contributes" to your dumpster are known as "dumpster tax". It's the price you pay for having a dumpster in your driveway. Be happy if it is just sandwiches and not couches or car batteries.
JK
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I want to tell a dumpster story.
Once, drving down First Avenue in NYC, I saw a dumpster next to the curb, maybe 15 or 20 feet long, 5 feet high, and as wide as they usually are, wide enough to fit in a parallel parking space and be only a little farther into the street than a car.
There were people in it so I stopped to look. It was full of books, hardback books with no dust covers, and the people in it were gathering books. I got in, and in a half hour got about 20 books that I was interested in. Two or three people would stand outside and point to books they were interested in, but without dust covers, I think it was pretty hard to tell which was which. I made a point to come back 2 days later and the book level had gone from 4 to 5 feet down to 2 to 3 feet. It was summer weather and I suspect they were adding more books daily but that it was occupied 20 hours a day by people taking books. I went back 2 or 3 days after that and the people were still at it, but I had my thirst for books quenched at that point, iirc. Maybe I got one or two more.
A lot of acadmic books, non-fiction, serious works, some prayer books. 1st avenue and about 25st. I think it was too big to be a personal library, and they could have put the dumpster closer if they were emptying a house. I think they were cleaning out some kind of warehouse.
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:20:22 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote:

Lots of thoughts !!!! Take a chainsaw and cut out the wall to your bedroom. Have the dumpster placed in there and then you can sleep in it. Just think how much fun it would be to have sex in there ontop of all the trash. I bet you'd get on the Springer Show for that....... (after all, it's TRASH TV).

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In my case, if I wanted to put it on the street, I was required to get a permit from the city. I had them put it in my driveway, and sure enough it left ruts in it (asphalt). The trick with the plywood would probably have prevented this. I've also heard of putting 2xsomething under the wheels.
Another thing - watch out for overhead wires. They tilt the dumpster up pretty high when they drop it off.
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snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote:

I have rented hundreds of them. Forget about putting it in the garage. They probably won't do it due to the liablility involved, and because it would be so difficult to get in and out. Plus, it will be difficult to get anything into it unless you rent a 20 yard. The 30 yard dumpster will be almost to the ceiling. The 40 will not even fit in the door.
Put it where it is easiest to get your refuse into it. Fill it up and have them haul it off.
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