dog tunneling under chain link fence

[<aemeijers]

&#39;powder puff&#39; - I like that almost as much as my term- &#39;self-propelled plush toy&#39;.

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[<aemeijers]

Freedom is risky. Keep you in a padded cell, you&#39;d probably live longer, too. Sorry, inside-only cats aren&#39;t cats any more.

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[clannorm]

An electric fence will cure the problem immediately. It keeps coyotes out so some papered dog ain&#39;t gona go thru it. If they dig under it you need to put it in parallel rows.

[krw]

Good thing, I say.

Neither is rabid St. Benard. So? If they&#39;re out of control, shoot them, then charge the owners with criminal mischief, or some such.

There were *no* warnings? The dogs had never bitten nor snapped before? I&#39;m sure you can find one example.

You really should try it again with an open mind. Let me go a little slower and see if that helps. You ban one breed and it morfs into another or you get mixes. Any such laws have more holes in them than a screen door.

Perhaps because they get attention of the press? Perhaps because they&#39;re the dog of choice of miscreants and beat to shit, either on purpose or because that&#39;s the only thing they understand? Perhaps because the moon _is_ made of green cheese. Your (lack of) stats is meaningless.

"Heavily regulated", my ass. Any 86 year-old can get a license and run down a dozen people. Assholes can still turn and kill on a moment&#39;s notice.

There is a difference between a private contract and a law. I can choose to go without insurance or find another company. I can&#39;t disobey the force of law.

All dogs are the same species. That species is also used for companionship and work. It&#39;s easy to write regulations banning horses or donkeys, not so with a subset of dogs that you think is inherently more dangerous than another.

Until the dog infringes on my rights it can stay. The cow has merely by existing. I bet you want to banish all blacks because statistically they cause more crime than non-blacks too.

[krw]

More feline psychobabble. All the cats we&#39;ve had (all but one declawed) were perfectly healthy and well adjusted. Cats don&#39;t have to kill birds to get their chase/kill instincts soothed.

[Bert Byfield]

A responsible cat owner lets their cat experience freedom, risks and all.

[Rick Brandt]

And they get to buy lots of cats that way.

[Bert Byfield]

Declawed cats are an obscenity. Cats kept inside are another atrocity. Such a cruel world.

[Bert Byfield]

Cats are alive. They are NOT powder puffs.

[Bert Byfield]

If so, it means a chance at life for a kittens that would otherwise be put to death by the animal control center of your local government.

[krw]

More feline psychobabble claptrap.

[krw]

I think any cat owner who would let a cat outside to shit in my yard and kill songbirds to be an atrocity and should be shot for it. Stick that up your dumb ass.

[Rick Brandt]

Kittens that would unlikely exist were it not for people letting their cats roam around.

[Norminn]

And how often the parents of murderers get on the tube to tell the world what a sweety pie the killer is, then blame the "wrong crowd".

[Norminn]

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No, I don&#39;t harm animals but I&#39;ve read about enough people being killed by dogs that it is alarming to see owners who do not adequately secure their animals. Family pets can bite if they are injured, threatened or protecting their food. I grabbed a chicken bone from our pet once, and he didn&#39;t like it. My fault of course that he got food he should not have, but it is natural animal behavior that I was referring to.

I&#39;ve also had the sad experience of having an injured cat crawl into the yard .. one with a large abcessed wound on it&#39;s head. Cat&#39;s don&#39;t belong on city streets. We kept ours indoors and took good care of him .. one of the sweetest animals I have known.

My daughter&#39;s dog came out of nowhere once when I bent over to tuck in and kiss my grandson goodnight .. she got between me and my grandson. She is very protective of her owners, and I don&#39;t know what it would take for her to attack, but she has also taken a protective stance to protect me. She is amazing, and people often stop to ask about her when we go for walks. The dog will get between me and the stranger, put her body against mine. Can&#39;t hear her growl but can feel it.

I used to visit a neighbor&#39;s Doberman to give it water. It spent years tied to a tree in the back yard, wearing a path around the tree. His water bowl was often empty. His food bowl was attracting rats.

Took care of an older lady in the hospital once who was mauled by her own Doberman. She was preparing it&#39;s food, went to put the bowl down and he mauled her arms badly. She lost a couple of fingers in the deal.

[Norminn]

Our town has a pet park, a large area set aside with a tall fence around it and pets can run loose and play in it. I would be a bit intimidated being in there with a bunch of dogs of all sizes but I haven&#39;t read of any incidents of pets there attacking another pet or owner. Pretty neat idea.

[Lawrence]

Cats are free everywhere.

[George]

Not from my observation. I know multiple people who have well trained pit bulls that seem like complete pussy cats and will lick you to death but as soon as they spot another dog the primitive traits kick in and they want to kill it.

[Bob]

Along the same lines, but without the cruelty..... Get the dog nail clippers out, and trim the claws right down to the quick without cutting it. It does reduce the effectiveness of their digging ability. Regular trimming makes the quick recede, and lets you trim them ever shorter. It works on cats too. I&#39;ve found a good manicure keeps them from having an interest in attacking the furniture. Mine are mostly outdoor casts, and even with a good trimming, they can climb trees, and do a good job of fending off nosey dogs.

[Al Bundy]

"HeyBub" wrote in news: [e-mail]:

Yea, why would they wanna scratch their balls when they can lick &#39;em?