It may not have been a MAF, but it was some sensor for the engine that
Autozone or a store like that had over $ 500 on that part on line. Maybe a
fuel flow sensor ? Anyway whatever part it was the cost was over $ 500 for
a sensor of some kind for a 1991 Camry. Even the dealer cost was close to
As that was over 15 years ago, I may not be recalling the correct sensor,
just the price.
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:02:25 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
The mass airflow sensor in the early Camry was a mechanical vane type
unit, designed by Bosch, made by NipponDenso, and listed at something
north of $400 - and at that time it was a dealer only part - not
available from any other suppliers. After a couple of years, they
became available from the aftermarket - but generally at the same or
higher price as the dealership. It was covered by warranty for 5
years or 50,000 miles (80,000km) as an emission control part and I
don't think I ever sold one retail - might have installed one or two
By the time tha car was 10 years old I'm sure there were several other
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:09:35 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
In the ten years I was service manager, our absorption rate was
almost constantly above 80% - and quite regularly over 100% - which
means if the dealership didn't sell a single car, the parts and
service department made enough money to keep the doors open, covering
all expenses except for the draw for the sales staff.
Most dealerships at the time struggled to hit 80%.
A large part of the reason was our retention rate.
Retention rate is the percentage of vehicles sold that returned at
least twice a year for service on a 3 year basis. Target was 70%. Many
dealerships struggled to maintain 50%. I was consistently over 80% and
for several years handilly exceded 100%., because I was servicing
vehicles sold by surrounding dealerships who could not, or would not,
satisfy their customers.
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:29:33 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
When I was working as service manager, a big dealer in town advertized
for a service manager and I responded. After a few minutes of the
interview the job was mine for the taking, untill we started talking
renumeration. This was back around 1984-86 time frame. He asked how
much I needed to take the job. I told him if I wasn't worth $40,000 an
year to him after 6 months, I wasn't his man.
His replay? "Service managers don't make $40,000"
My reply - "Here's one who does"
I then reminded him that he had a reputation in his sales department
of letting the lowest grossing salesperson about every six monts - and
even the lowest one made more than $40,000 a year.
I also then told him the salesman only sells the customer his FIRST
car - I sold him the second, the third, and the fourth and didn't
collect a commission for those sales.
I walked. He went through another 3 or 4 sales managers over the next
It might be because this is in a small town of around 30,000 people and it
is a combination Ford and Toyoto dealer.
Took my dad's Ford to the same shop because a 2 year old car ingition switch
went bad. Picked it up and the next day when he went somewhere he could not
get in the driver door. Had to use the other door and crawl over to get to
the driver seat. They had replaced the ingition switch but for some
reasone they had to replace the door locks so the keys would match. This
was before the smart keys and only a standard key.
That dealer does not have a good reputation around town for repairs.
I worked at shop the paid commission on parts. It was so little it never
entered my mind. Neither the shop nor I ever sold unnecessary repairs or
parts. We were busy and honest. We could make lots of money fixing the
mistakes and poor diagnostics of others.
I hate that charge. It is built into some of the dealer software to add
2% to the bill. I had some diagnostic done that required just plugging
in the computer so I disputed the charge. I asked to see the dirty rags
and other trash generated. They took it off the bill.
With tires, the disposal fee is charged whether or not you leave them tires
to dispose of. So, it is like a recycling fee charged on a can of soda.
But, you cannot turn in a tire and get the recycling fee back - that is why
you still see tires abandoned all over the place. If they would let people
turn in tires for a buck apiece, there wouldn't be any abandoned tires.
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:10:57 -0700, "taxed and spent"
How many beer and liquor containers to you find strewn along
roadsides??? Perhaps not as many as before there were deposits/refunds
on them - but still WAY too many. Even in areas where pop cans have
deposits, you find them scattered all around. (enough to keep some
homeless folks busy collecting empties, anyway)
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