Do they make 6 inch concrete blocks?

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So, if I wanted to build a deck in the middle of a field, I'd have to built a house along side to support it?
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no then it would be a free standing structure, but would still require proper footings
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No, if you built a platform/deck in the middle of a field you would have to definitely build it on properly dug footings and bolt posts and beams to said footings to support the deck joists...
Stacks of CMU blocks would not be either adequate nor proper for supporting a safely built deck... However if you have the money to afford to either settle or defend the lawsuits, do whatever you feel you want to until a civil court Judge and jury tells you that your way of doing it was wrong, oh and pay the people who got hurt money...
~~ Evan
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ROFL... Being "held up off the ground on loosely stacked CMUs is not STRUCTURALLY SUPPORTED... Even if you grout the CMUs solid, they are not tied down to footings and bolted with the proper hangers, to keep the entire structure from shifting... Relying on the mass of the deck to hold it down IS *NEVER* proper, and it is not "independent support"...
Sounds like you are just playing semantics with the words and totally not understanding the defined concepts in the standard building code which still applies above and beyond whatever specific interpretations and additional protections the local AHJ adds to it...
~~ Evan
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:11:02 -0800 (PST), " snipped-for-privacy@aol.com"

1. Its a trailer house
2. The deck is attached to the house with two L-brackets, one on each side.
3. The deck cant pull away from the house because the bottom steps in front have eye bolts under the bottom step with rebar driven in the ground.
4. I'm not worried about resale value. I dont plan to move.
5. I'm not woried about inspections, it's a farm house and when this trailer first arrived I only had concrete block steps. The inspector only checked to see if I had a smoke detector, said they dont inspect trailers any more than that.
6. How could I put heat tape in treated 2x6 deck boards.
7. The deck is still too high. I built it level with the house floor. The threshold is an inch above the floor. Deck lifted a little during the winter. Ice dripped off awning above door, froze on the snow, I could not get out the door. Had to use rear door.
8. Deck is only 7x10 feet. I built it on the lawn and set it in place with the tractor. Steps were added later. I can lift with tractor again, or just jack it up an inch to change blocks. Step stringers will have to be cut off 2" on bottom. Not a problem it's all screwed together.
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On Feb 17, 5:11pm, snipped-for-privacy@nospam.com wrote:

Nice try but the backbiters will find something else to nit pick :). You did see my post? Yes, they make 6" block.
Hard to believe that there are 43 posts and only one answered your question.
Harry K
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Sadly, not hard to believe at all. It seems that on day one of a new thread, one third of the posts are scolds, as in "you did something stupid/wrong/different" - another third are poor attempts at stand-up comedy - and the final third might somehow be tangentially related to the subject. After that first day, most of the threads degenerate into political screeds, WD-40 retorts and stories about the "good old days." I think that's why a lot of web-based boards and chat groups encourage people to vote for the "most helpful" answers. That tends to quickly sort out the people who are genuinely interesting in helping from the people who feel compelled to respond to every post, whether it's relevant, helpful or completely self-serving.
Some threads remain remarkably free of drift while others, like this one, wander away in the wrong direction right out of the starting gate.
-- Bobby G.
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well its t least a matter of safety......
a deck not on footers, not bolted to building could move and toss people off. People dance and do all sorts of things on decks like kids playing ball. Plus decks often have a grill on them adding even more hazards.
the cost to build a deck properly isnt much more than a cheap job. you still need all the joists, deck boards, and hopefully a railing. although this deck may not have a railing.......
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But with 43 posts about it being improperly attached it turns out it _was_ attached all along. Talk about people making unwarranted assumptions.
Codes vary from one place to another and saying that a deck has to be built to 'earthquake' standards without knowing what the codes are does the usual "assumption" thing. I think I will check with my local code enforcer today and see what they say for my area.
Harry K
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Why should be people here give the OP advice on how to build something improperly ?
We confirmed that 6" concrete blocks exist... Or he could cut down larger blocks with a gas powered cut off saw...
But seriously, people who give advice here are interested in explaining how to do things properly, not how to redneck the fuck out of the job...
~~ Evan
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Yep. I don't think I have ever seen on go off on a tangent and never address the base point before though :)
Harry K
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:28:28 -0800 (PST), Harry K

them with Redi Mix for a use like this.

I was thinking the same thing. It was a pretty simple question. I've been noticing this newsgroup seems to be going the same direction as th tv show "This old house". Seems these days nothing is a simple repair, it's always got to be very costly, complicated, and involve a whole crew of pros, inspectors, and whatever else makes something as bloated as possible.

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so the bottom step will be 2 inches less than the remainder. a door to door solicitor comes by and trips because the steps dont match.
they can sue you if they get hurt. say lower back pain, impossible to prove one way or the other......
do you have homeowers insurance?
theres a reason code requires all steps to be the same height, because far too many people got hurt in the past from disassimiliar steps.......
oh well you were warned
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I dunno where this "deck" is located,

You don't know where it is but you somehow know what the local codes are.

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Have you told the building inspectors in florida that footing need to be 4' deep for FROST protection? There aren't very many states that need to be that deep to be below the frost line. Last time I dug footing (1986 in E Washington) I only had to go 30". And yes tht was the code.
So all those pole buildings, sheds, etc being built around the country are not code compliant? Clue, you dig a hole tolocal code specs, stick the pole in and till with well tamped soil or gravel. Here, at least, there is no requirement for a "bell end".
So you don't know wher it is but insist you know what thelocal codes are.
Harry K
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theres a reason 43 posts were about what he did wrong......... because it was pure wrong and someone could get hurt:(
beyond the fiancial liability just the thought of hurting a person perhaps permanetely by building something half assed chills me.
I was at home depot the other day, a customer was telling the clerk he wanted to buy a 125 foot extension cord to run power permanetely to his back yard. he wanted to run the extension cord down the center of his driveway in the crack control slit the concrete guy just cut in his new driveway.
I said extension cords are not permanent and a real hazard someone walking down the driveway could step on the cord and get electrocuted.
the shopper asked wheres the extension cords? and he said he would tell his kids not to walk in that area:(
as i wealked away the sales guy who had a clue was attempting to explain futher why this wasnt a good idea.
i saw the customer later at a register, and said hop you never kill anyone........
he muttered something and must have been a wife said i told you that wasnt safe........
codes are there to prevent unnecessary pain and suffering
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On 2/19/2011 7:51 AM, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

I have come to believe in my latter years that there should be NO government mandated safety standards. I now believe that everything should be as dangerous as possible. All consumer items, all sports, all recreation and all manufacturing should be as perilous to life and limb without regard to protecting the dumb-asses of the world. If you stand in a puddle of water and operate a plug-in electric power tool, you deserve to be electrocuted. Ride you bike without a helmet, go ahead, get your brains scattered all over some street. Forget wearing eye protection during construction, being blind isn't so bad. I want natural selection, the human race is degrading because for some inexplicable reason, we promote reproduction of stupid people by protecting them from themselves. I want education for sure, I want the information about safe living to be available but I want nobody to be able to demand compensation when they do something stupid. I want extreme personal responsibility. You cause an accident through your stupidity and kill someone, it's a capital crime, death or life welded in a steel box where you will never have a chance to pass on your stupid genes. IT'S TIME TO THIN THE HEARD!! ^_^
TDD
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Yes, and codes are LOCAL. There is no US wide code. When some idiot says that footing need to be 4' deep for frost but "doesn't know where the poster is"... There is a whole bunch of bushwa in here about code compliance and noone even knows where he is or what the "code" is there. My guess is that his deck doesnt' meet them.
If you read through my posts, you will see that nowhere do I claim what he did is OK. I onlypoint out the stupid part of the posts people are throwing at him.
Harry K
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well snow and ice are accumulating so he isnt in florida, and would need some footer. so OP provided enough info to get a idea of what he was up too......
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:54:03 -0800 (PST), Evan

You're assuming he loves someone..... That's a big assumption to make, since you dont know the guy. How do you know he loves anyone. For all you know, he might hate everyone.
Also, how do you know he plays the lottery? Maybe he is against gambling and has never bought a lottery ticket.
Ted
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On Feb 19, 2:26pm, snipped-for-privacy@viagra.com wrote:

dont worry if something bad happens the new property owners will make the property safe for the next owner, they can use all his assets like retirement savings. i just heard a judgement can attach up to 55% of his social security too......
doing truly unsafe stuff can get rewards of the person losing everything they own........
of course if the visitor sitting on the deck when it collapses loses a leg its really not enough......
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