Dishwasher DEPTH issue

[Kevin]

Hi, first time post in this group. I bought an older home and am trying to fit a dishwasher into the existing cabinents

However, I'm encountering issues with insufficent depth...that is, I need a "less deep" dishwasher on the order of 20" to 21". Beyond that requirement, I'd like a full size dishwasher; I did see some that looked like large microwaves, but that would be too small for my uses.

After searching the net, I did notice that Asko and Bosch may make some models that are slightly less deep, but still may not meet my requirements. Anyone have ideas for me? Thanks in advance for any help.

Kevin

[jeff]

Hi,

The least deep d/w's that I have seen are usually not less than 22 &

1/2"....Fisher&Paykel drawer d/w, Smeg....DanO has a good collection of manufacture site all together and you can easily search many of the brands made today... jeff.

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[Tom Baker]

Kevin, Is the depth an absolute limit? Could you recess the dishwasher in the wall behind the counter? I've turned studs "flat" behind refrigerators to gain inches. If one European washer is not enough, can you find room for two, or one and a dish drawer? My daughter, who cooks a lot, finds her Miele adequate, BTW.

Tom Baker

[Kevin]

Thanks for hte responses I've gotten thus far...to answer your question, the distance from the wall to the front of the cabinet is

21". I wouldn't mind the dishwasher stickout out a LITTLE BIT (an inch or so), but beyond that, I think it would look...well, bad. I could potentially cut into the wall and/or studs, but I'd be treading into uncharted territory. Actually, this is all uncharted territory, being my first house and all.

Kevin

[Luke]

I had a similar situation with shallow cabinets in my second house. Couldn't afford to replace the cabinets so soon after buying the house, and couldn't find a shallow full-size dishwasher. My solution was to box out the cabinet fronts around the dishwasher with 1x2 and molding. Painted the "trim" to match the cabinet face. Looked pretty good, and no visitor to the house ever noticed, or at least no one said anything ;-). Just a thought.

[Kevin]

Luke, that sounds like an interesting solution! Do you have a digital camera, by chance? I'd be intersted in seeing a few snapshots if that's doable. Thanks!

[Luke]

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It was in the house previous to this house, 10 years ago, and we remodelled the kitchen some 5 years ago, destroying my handiwork. So, sorry, no photos. But it's very simple to do, just box out the front of the cabinets, nail or screw on whatever lumber/trim will look good. Three cautions: Measure for the box with the dishwasher in place, to be sure it's deep enough but won't interfere with the door. If you build with the machine in place, as I did, be extremely careful not to hit or mar the dishwasher, which would rather defeat the purpose of the entire project ;-). And make sure any doors on either side of the dishwasher still have clearance to open. Our old cabinet fronts were painted, so matching the trim was easy. Depending on your cabinet finish you may need to be more creative, using a paint that looks good even though not an exact match, or a "faux" finish of some sort.