We have a regular treated wood pole off the street next to our driveway
and steps leading up to the house and we pay Alabama Power a few bucks a
month for a HPS pole light which lights up the front yard and a good bit
of the neighbors yards and street. The only city provided lights are
at intersections. The light does help keep a lot of goblins away and
lets us see what the dogs are barking at. ^_^
Are you talking about the removal of residential street lights in
Highland Park, or the abandonment of entire streets and neighborhoods
within Detroit city limits?
In this case, the lights don't appear to be owned by the city, but by
the private electricity utility (DTE) or the contractor they hired. So
it's not "their toys" (they being the city of Highland Park).
DTE is shooting themselves in the foot. The lights give them revenue
when they're operating. While their customer (Highland park) can't pay
them *RIGHT NOW* to juice up the lights, by removing the lights DTE is
insuring that they will get NO REVENUE when Highland park will be in a
position in the future to afford to turn them back on.
DTE is not in the business of installing lights. I'm sure they'd much
rather sell the electricity like they've been doing for how many dozen
years. And remember that just like they did when they pulled them down,
they'd simply contract out the job to someone else.
By taking down the equipment, they've added an unncessary complication
for Highland Park city hall were they to decide to have the lights back
up and working again. The added cost to re-install the lights (unless
absorbed by DTE over many years) will only postpone any decision to turn
them on again. This is still a stupid decision on the part of DTE -
unless the money saved in lower insurance costs makes up the difference
over 5 or 10 years.
The pole will come down someday. DTE takes it down, it falls down from lack
of maintenance, or some driver knocks it into the street where it is hit by
a station wagon full of illegal aliens and their seven children, killing all
but one infant.* Perhaps DTE, looking at the insurance premium they have to
pay on each pole, decide they could come out ahead by taking the poles down
* Lest you think I jest, the all-steel, 30' pole in front of my house - on a
straight street - was hit during the night and completely uprooted! It fell
across my driveway, narrowly missing my car and probably the cat.
The next morning, my son and I surveyed the debris field. We found a lens
cover from a turn indicator. Running the part number down (it wasn't easy)
we discovered it came from a Chevy S-10 pickup. Imagine how a girl-sized
pickup could knock a 14" diameter steel pole twenty feet. It boggles the
The story gets better. Three times during the next two weeks I called the
pole people, asking politely for them to move it from my driveway. No luck.
From the backyard, I got a 15' fallen tree limb and stuck it in the hole
formerly occupied by the street lamp. I placed a small kerosene lamp near
the top. I then emailed a picture of the result to the service department of
the light company along with the message: "No hurry, I replaced it."
The pole was moved the next day.
Wait, it gets better.
I didn't see who moved the pole, but I did see where they moved it. They
moved this 30', dented, steel pole to the road median! That's exactly what
they did, they simply drug it out of the way!
There the pole rested for about a month until (I guess) one night some
passing urban fairies cut it up for scrap and hauled it off.
Heh. Thank your god for turning Texas into Mexico North.
I've been to Texas many times. Lubbock, Dallas, Austin, Houston, San
Antonio. Each one at least 4 times over the past 15 years (except for
Lubbock - only been there once). Galveston a few times. North Padre
Island once for a week's vacation.
In general, we like them. These immigrants are, for the most part, exactly
the kind of folks we want: Hard working, industrious, willing to place their
faith in their own abilities, take a chance on building a better life for
themselves and their families.
As opposed to some of the immigrants from New Orleans that I mentioned
Then why is the whole friggen country tying itself up in knots over
Why are so many opposed to giving them amnesty and a fast-track to
citizenship if you like them so much?
What - that I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade?
The US is f*cked up, and it all started with the response to 9-11, and
just got worse electing Bush a second time.
As the saying goes - it's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to
On 11/5/2011 2:18 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
[Theremin music in the background] In the future, cities will be lighted
by small artificial suns developed by scientists working
in the field of nuclear fusion. These small suns will be attached
to small blimps floating over sections of the city and can be moved
around to provide additional light to a section if some event requires
That's what I question.
Then there's the logistics of the actual theft.
Anyone coming along with pickup truck in the middle of the night with
battery-operated tools is going to have a hard time cutting just one of
those off it's base and then make at least one more cut to get it short
enough to put in his truck and drive away before someone wakes up and
gives their license plate number to a 911 operator.
Then try to fence it at a scrap yard.
And they might even be made of magnesium (same as your lawn mower
deck?). But then again I don't know if you get a different price for
magnesium vs aluminum from the recycler.
Coming along with a cherry picker and taking off the lamp fixtures is
one thing. There's probably a moderate amount of value there. But to
remove the pole? And cut the base bolts off and the wiring off? Think
of the labor cost to re-do the base if they ever want to put the lights
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