Is Craftsman worth a damn, anymore? Do they still have the instant
replacement guarantee on their hand wrenches?
I'm needing an SAE combo wrench set. Since I'm no longer a
professional mechanic, I don't really need to buy pro grade tools.
Even the better hand tools like S-K are now prohibitively expensive.
Sears has one of their usual tool sales and I need a basic SAE combo
wrench set, my pro grade German metric set OK, but an American sized
set would make things a bit easier for wrenching my EZGO golf cart.
Now they only give repair part. Not a replacement. My ratchet wrench
needed new guts and they gave a bag containing repair kit. Did not
replace the wrench. I remember old ones were made by Singer but I think
new ones now are made in Taiwan?
All depends on what's wrong -- and, there's nothing wrong w/ the
replacement ratchet "guts" if that's all that's wrong; and, in fact, for
most I'd far prefer to keep the original handle over the newer ones as
generally the "fit and finish" hence the comfort of the old is better
than the new...
But, certainly for things like OP is talking of the replacement is a
replacement and is above poster says, is still in force.
For OP; for general use I think they're still more than adequate; the
hand wrenches and the like are as near as I can tell essentially the
same as have been for ages.
Stuff like lineman's pliers that I had a set replaced a couple of years
ago because elder son used them to cut #10 fencing wire and took a chunk
out of the cutter are seemingly adequate but finish is much less clean
and handles are rough comparatively...
I've bought some also perfectly adequate combo sets stamped w/ Stanley
or some other licensed brands at bargain bin prices that also have held
up well and aren't that bad to use, too.
If you have one where you can go look instead of mail order, even some
of the HF collections are decent and certainly "the price is right" but
you need to be able to look and judge/feel...
I handed the man at Sears a broken ratchet wrench, and he reached under
the desk and traded me for someone's "rebuilt" one is less than 15
seconds. The trade was over so quick that I thought it must happen a lot!
Craftsman USED to be PRO quality. I used them all my carreer and I
know quite a few others who did as well. No idea what they are like
today but they will be more than adequate for your golf cart.
Hazet may be a bit higher quality, for double the price -and they come
from Brazil now instead of Germany. Never really liked the finish on
them compared to my Craftsman tools. Used Hazet at the trade school
where I taught.
I can't be sure about Shears. I worked for them in 1996,
and was totally not impressed with the company.
A couple weeks ago, I got a set of SAE open end and box
wrench from Harbor Freight. I used the set yesterday,
for some very light duty work. The fit and finish seemed
good, and they tightened nuts OK.
Please write back, and let us know what you decide, and
how it turns out.
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
On 9/17/2013 7:13 AM, notbob wrote:
I agree, they are probably serviceable but I'd compare with Kobalt, the
Kobalt wrenches feel nicer in the hand and have the same guarantee
theoretically (never had to use it.)
I did have a broken Husky socket that I was unable to warrant at Home
Depot... nobody seemed to have a clue or really care how to go about
it. (not a big loss for me, it was in a lot of tools bought at a yard
sale, had it been part of a set I'd have been mad though as individual
sockets are pricey.)
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
I broke one of these Husky painter's tool last year and took it in to Home
Depot for replacement.
The tool comes with a tiny #2 Phillips bit, but I didn't have it with me
when I went to exchange it.
The nice lady behind the counter opened up the packaging on the new tool
and removed the bit before she gave me the replacement tool.
Wouldn't that be an interesting way to steal #2 bits. Buy one painter's
tool, remove the bit and exchange the tool for a new one over and over
again, keeping the bit each time. I'm glad HD is protecting themselves
from crooks like me. ;-)
I bought a set about 15 years ago and they were not as good as they were
years before that. They peobably are even cheaper made now. The old ones
are very good quality for the average person.
Might pay to look around some flea markets to see if there are any old ones
there. I still have a 1/2 inch set of sockets my day had in the 50's.
Don't know what he did with the ratchet, but do have the pull handle.
I had an interesting discussion with a Sears employee.
Turns out that the CRAFTSMAN brand still has lifetime instant,
no questions asked, guarantee.
But they have a lower cost brand with lifetime guarantee...
To get THAT guarantee, you have to keep the receipt and send
it in somewhere for replacement. Funny, it doesn't mention
that on the box.
I bought a T-50 black impact Torx wrench, for brake
jobs on my last Blazer. From Napa auto parts. After
one such brake job, I noticed the tip was bent. Took
it back, the guy swapped it out instantly, no questions
or paper work. I'd used a 230 foot pound HF brand
electric impact wrench. Not a huge over powering
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
On 9/17/2013 2:29 PM, notbob wrote:
I checked the pawn shop. Nada. Car/Quest and True Value had Taiwan
and PRC wrenches, respectively. Napa's MasterCraft wrenches are made
in India, but claim on the spot replacement. I may jes go for the
Craftsman USA made set, which goes on sale next week. The trailer I
jes bought is prolly metric, anyway. I've got several Bonney SAE
wrenches, but not a whole set. I was buying them piecemeal when the
store discontinued the line.
To the guy that was sniveling about "snap-off", sorry to hear they've
gone down the tubes. Snap-On usta epitmize US quality, their 60s-70s
combo wrenches the finest money could buy. I'm almost positive they
were made by Bonney, now defunct. That's the company that invented
the brilliant "flank drive" box wrench. I first noticed Snap-On going
cheap with a Chinese oil can. Broke first time I used it.
I'll relate a story I've told on usenet before.
I wuz a neophyte bike wrench doing a top end job on a Puch "twingle".
They had square head bolts. I had no square sockets to fit down in
between the cylinder head fins, so used a 10mm Snap-On combo wrench,
the open end, end-wise down into the fins on the square bolt head. I
put a Crescent adjustable wrench on the shank/handle of the SO
open-end wrench to provide twist leverage. Three bolts broke loose
easily. The fourth did not. I continued applying torque on the SO wrech
until the bolt finally gave. The wrench never broke, but the open-end
head twisted 45 degrees to the shank/handle. This was a borrowed set,
not my own. When I finally reassembled the head, I put excess torque
on the wrench equally over the four bolts and managed to twist the
open end wrench head back into line with the shank handle. I later
told the person I borrowed the set from what had happened and told him
if he could identify which wrench I twisted, I would buy him a new
one. He could not. That IS quality and Snap-On once had it.
I've snapped the fingers off 2 Craftsman open end wrenches. When I
worked as a Yamaha shop mechanic, but lived 100 miles from the closest
Sears, failure was not an option and is the reason I've never
considered Craftsman tools to be pro grade. I used S-K tools for many
years and never had a failure, but this is when you couuld buy an S-K
wrench or socket set for $15-25. They now cost as much as Snap-On
sets did back in the 60s, i.e. in the $100-150 range. I don't need
that kinda quality, anymore, but still will not buy junk.
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