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Why does Consumer Reports does not have Hilti for tools or Speed Queen for appliences in their surveys?
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Why does Consumer Reports does not have Hilti for tools or Speed Queen for appliences in their surveys?
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On Jun 10, 6:56 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

I did but I never got an answer.
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On 6/10/2012 9:39 PM, Molly Brown wrote:

It's funny you mentioned Speed Queen tonight. I was reading some reports on my wife's pension plan after dinner, and her plan owns a large chunk of the parent company of Speed Queen. That's twice in about 4 hours I've heard of this company.
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I just went on their site and while I didn't find "Hilti" in a search, I did find two Speed Queen washers that were tested.
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Molly Brown wrote:

Hi, I believe they are not consumer grade stuffs.
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It’s not even on the list as I see it:
http://web.consumerreports.org/dryers/c/Index.html?EXTKEY=SM72A00&CMP=KNC-CROAPPM&HBX_OU=52&HBX_PK=best_washer_and_dryer
If they’re not consumer grade then are they commercial grade, and if so, isn’t that better?
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:28:24 -0700 (PDT), Molly Brown

Sure, but did you notice the name of the publication is CONSUMER Reports.
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Merriam Webster
Consumer: one that utilizes economic goods.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consumer
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:28:57 -0700 (PDT), Molly Brown

Think consumer vs. commercial grade. Usually there is a distinction between them. And I believe commercial is always higher in price which makes most consumers go toward the consumer grade items. Of course if you are willing to pay more, I think in most (not sure if all) cases you can buy the commercial grade.

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I just bought speed queen and cost was about the same. BUT the value was HEADS above anything could get in 'consumer' grade, which appears to be a euphemism for c***.
I had a lot of respect for CR UNTIL I went to buy a VCR and purchased their magazine that reviewed a quite a few. I needed to find out which one had the least jitter in their display, because I had noticed that between the old films jumping up and down and the VCR jitter bouncing side to side, one could get really nauseous. so let's find out which one has the least jitter, best bandwidth, and lasted a long time.
First comment from CR was VCR's are pretty much all alike [NO THEY AREN'T!!] so we'll review their features...nothing about jitter, nothing about bandwidth, nothing about reliability but only about features, which is the ONE thing I didn't care about!
Next time I wanted to replace a hair dryer for wife. Just wanted to find out three things temperature of air upon exit, what is volume of air against a 1 inch head, and NOISE [give me a dBA rating, does it hurt your ears?]. Sales people are useless, because they say things like "It's 1500W with 3 settings" Even manufacturers didn't publish those three MOST important performance specs. Never found anything, so gave up ever using CR again.
Well, tried one more time to find the best TV large LCD screen, but the internet discussions were far better - and interactive, so again CR lost. Methinks CR has turned into something akin to a buggy whip, or bound paper encyclopedias.
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wrote:

And "proffesional grade" SHOULD be better than "commercial"
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I'm comparing it to what you have in your house.
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:32:53 -0700 (PDT), Molly Brown

Which house? I have more than one?
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:28:57 -0700 (PDT), Molly Brown

So you contradicted yourself if you believe that is the only way the word is used. In context, commercial and industrial grades are not the same as CONSUMER grade.
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Only if you believe that anyone engaged in commerce does not utilize goods.
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I guess you better have a discussion with the FEDS over at the Dept of Commerce. Seems they've been issuing reports for decades on things like Consumer Spending. Which is spending by households, ie seperate from business spending, which is reported seperately
In the case in point, just looking at the Consumer Reports website it's obvious that the vast majority of what they rate is targeted at households. Some overlap, like a video recorder that could also be used by a business, sure. But I don't see why anyone would expect them to rate commercial products. With that DVD example, would you expect them to be rating video recorder eqpt that pro videographers, CBS, etc would typically use?
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On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:23:50 AM UTC-7, snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net wrote:

If I could get a “video recorder eqpt that pro videographers, CBS, etc would typically use” for about the same price as what a department store sells, especially if it was a lot more reliable, why the hell not.
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:18:20 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Well, you can't. Kinda makes your post foolish, no?
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On Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:39:01 PM UTC-5, Molly Brown wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaXHTFycEgU

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