| On 25 Jun 2008 07:10:53 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
|>| Although it varies by state, if we use the U.S. national average, the
|>| generation of those additional 6,100 kWhs would release 80 mg of Hg
|>| into the environment. At least with the fluorescent lamp, the 1.7 mg
|>| contained within can be recycled or properly disposed in a secure
|>| landfill (thereby potentially reducing our exposure to 0 mg) whereas
|>| the 80 mg of Hg released from the burning of coal indiscriminately
|>| pollutes our air, land and water.
|>But at least those other releases of Hg are not released in my house.
| I've broken a number of fluorescent lamps over the years and when one
| crashes to the floor I basically follow EPA guidelines; for me, it
| hasn't been a concern. For those who are uncomfortable about the
| prospect of cleaning up a broken CFL, an incandescent or halogen
| source may be a better option.
|>Hg is not by primary reason for avoiding fluorescent lights. But it is
|>one and would be the primary one if the light quality issue gets solved.
| Some are ok with the light, some aren't, and some of us are willing to
| trade-off a bit of light quality for the other benefits they provide.
| You have to decide for yourself what makes sense for you.
If I get past the Hg issue, I will put FL in some places but not in others.
That is, unless the address the light quality issue that I am concerned
about. Areas where I will be working for more than 20 minutes at a time
will have incandescent/halogen lights.
|>That's not to say I like the idea of releasing Hg into the air. For every
|>incandescent lamp used, we should depricate an equivalent amount of coal
|>burned. I'm all for building lots more solar/wind/hydro/nuclear capability
|>(provided it is done in the right way).
| I think we have to acknowledge the basic truth that incandescent lamps
| use, on average, four times more electricity than their CFL
| counterparts and that over half of the electricity currently generated
| by U.S. utilities is coal fired and that more coal-fired plants will
| be built to help meet future load growth. Nothing is going to change
| that, at least not overnight.
If they come up with suitable replacements, I'm fine with using them.
Maybe the Hg issue won't be much of one. I'm considering the fact that
so far I have never broken an FL light outside of some intentional acts
when I was a teenager. The spiral of CFLs seems to be a stronger glass
than the long tubes, as well.
FYI, I also intend to avoid the E26 screw base in as many places as I can.
| With respect to utilities switching to cleaner sources of power, my
| sense is that most folks support the idea in principle -- they just
| don't want to pay for it by way of higher electricity rates. If
| utilities are going to invest hundreds of billions of dollars in these
| alternate sources (and, at the same time, write-off their previous
| investments in dirty coal), someone is going to foot the bill and we
| all know who that is, right?
We have a broad spectrum of people out there that range from wanting to have
the lowest price at everyone else's expense, to those willing to pay triple
and more to ensure they impact no one else. It will be interesting to watch.
I say "tax it". If you don't want certain things done and can show a good
cause why (it impacts others in some way), then tax it. That comes down to
electrical usage. Raise the tax on the _generation_
of electrical power that
is made from coal. Or just tax the measured pollution produced (leaves open
the possibility of developing better cleaning processes). I'm not concerned
with the banning of A19/E26 white incandescent bulbs because there are plenty
of alternatives. The yellow insect bulbs can be used for reptile warming.
I can go with new fixtures that use bi-pin halogens, especially at low voltage.
If I were caught under the silliness of California's law that requires a
certain amount of lighting be the high efficacy type, and focuses on the
kitchen, where I need good quality task lighting the most (and generally
for no more than an hour or two a day, except on 2 or 3 holidays a year),
then you will see HPS lights (unused) dominating the kitchen while I still
used localized halogen task lighting there.
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