I know my chimney needs repair, but every time the chimney sweep guys come to clean the flue, they tell me something different (I need "Chimney Saver" coating, or I need a "Crown Seal" or something costing $300+ labor) and I fear being scammed.
Can you take a look at these photos? All opinions welcome.
I'm not beyond a DIY project, but it's kind of high and not too comfortable on ladder for extended duration.
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On Monday, July 29, 2013 7:13:12 AM UTC-4, Vic Smith wrote:
It looks like it's in good shape, just needs some pointing
done in the upper left area of the first pic. Looks like
there could be some cracks in the top too. I'd get estimates
from a couple of masons.
On 7/29/2013 12:20 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I had something like this done a few years ago when chimney guy was
doing other work. Coating was something I could have done myself but at
my age, roof climbing is a thing of the past. My chimney top was in
worse shape than yours.
Can't recall price but it was part of their doing something else and not
a separate trip. As part of other work, it did not cost that much.
I see the following problems:
1. cracking of chimney mortar cap
2. brick pointing is missing
3. several bricks have spalled along the facade.
The chimney sweeps said that the "chimney saver" clear coat will help to stop the brick spalling. I am assuming that I need something on the chimney cap to prevent further cracking. Am I missing anything??
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:25:46 -0700 (PDT), email@example.com wrote:
I didn't think I saw a big chip coming out of one brick. I don't
want to reload the photos now, unless you give me more reason to.
In 1957 we bought a house that was built after 1950, I think. First
litle chips came out of the brick, in one or two parts of the walls
and the chimney. Then the chips got bigger. My mother talked to
someone who said to "paint" the whole thing with silicone, or silicon,
or silicone-nnnnnnn. It came in gallon cans, not paint cans iirc but
like for turpentine. I did that and I think it helped quite a bit.
It was clear so it was hard to tell where I'd painted and where I
hadn't but I think I did a good job, and I was only 14. Maybe they
make a better product now??
I didn't go above 8 feet, and I think my mother paid to rebuild the
top 8 whatchamaclallits, layers of brick of the chimney. Then she
sold the house in 1966 and I think the new owner rebuilt the chimney
from about 9 feet up. Made it shorter and funny looking too, but who
used it? The only fireplace was in the living room.
We weren't the first owners, but when we still owned it, my mother
eventually found out who the builder was. Even though I"m almost
positive he had no *legal* duty, he had given money to some other
owners whose houses he built with the same bad batch of brick. He
had an appointment to come over to our house and I'm sure he would
have given us some money, but he had a heart attack and died about 4
days before that. Not because of us. It was still generous of
him, given the way most businessmen are, but whatever it took to pay
everyone who asked was not going to change his stanardard of living.
Silicone was and is a good penetrating sealer. Its purpose is to prevent
water intrusion and damage from same; in cold climates, water intrusion that
then freezes will ultimately mess up any masonry because water expands as it
There are other penetrating sealers, one of which (name escapes me now)
combines chemically with the ingredients in the masonry.
Off hand, I'd say the sweep guys are scamming you. With the cracks, you
need more than something you brush/spray on.
Last year, I had cracked brick around the crown. Water got in through the
cracked crown, froze, and well, you know what happens. I had a mason come
out. He totally removed the crown, replaced 4 bricks, placed a new crown on
the double flue, then sprayed the entire chimney with a clear sealer a
couple days later. Price: $500.00
Have it done right, instead of throwing good money away.
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 21:20:21 -0700 (PDT), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I doubt if that is enough. I think you need a Royal Christening,
which runs about $10,000 plus labor.
I know how you feel. The first guy I called, just to clean the stove
pipe chimneys (fireplace and furnace) , I had no idea what the price
should be, so I called another one and he was cheaper and could come
within a couple days.
He told me the stove pipe from the oil furnace to the chimney had
creosote and it was rusting and he couldn't clean that chimney until
it was replaced, at $600. I said I had to think about it. He charged
me for the fireplace, but not the furnace. That was good.
I called the first guy who was about $20 more and I told him, "I
thought only wood had creosote". He said, "No oil has it too, but you
don't have anay" and "Your pipes are getting old (33 years) but they
don't need replacing yet." and he charged me for the cleaning and
left. He was the owner and sole cleaner, iirc.
Later I saw ratings for the guy who wanted to replace things, and he
had a couple serious complaints, one mentioned the same phone
receptionist I had talked to (who told me about the creosote when the
guy who came out hadn't mentioned it.) This wasn't Angie's list**
but Yahoo or some other phone number listing.
**Angie's list annoyed me, because I filled out the whole first page
before it said that it cost money.
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