The thread about backhoe rates prompts me to ask: ...
I live in and own a 4-story Brownstone which like most such buildings
is about 10 feet from the property line which in turn immediately
abuts the sidewalk which is of course about 10 feet wide. The cornice
is the decorative frieze that resembles crown molding and runs across
the width of the house (about 20 feet by 2 feet) between the roof and
the facade. It's made of some malleable metal (not steel -- doesn't
rust) which deteriorates over time and needs to have the bad parts
scraped and repaired (epoxy) and the whole thing painted (primer and
two finish coats).
The problem is that to get at the cornice you need a swinging scaffold
and you need it (and a painter) for about an hour a day each day over
four days if it doesn't rain. But of course you pay for the scaffold
rental as though you were using it for 24 hours each day. It becomes
very expensive. Even more if you add in the cost of assembly and
dis-assembly. The result is that for four hours work I'm being quoted
about $750 and you can tell the people really don't want such a small
It occurred to me that what I really want in some cherry
picker-equipped truck like those owned by the utilities to swing by
every morning, park at the curb, do the painting and the drive off to
their normal job. Does anyone think this is feasible and if so how
would I go about getting someone to do it?
Depends on who you know. If you call a rental company they will give you
the daily rate and delivery charges, etc. I know of another guy that does
that sort of thing part time and he'd charge you about $100 minimum for an
hour or two. Three if you buy the coffee. I know a guy with a crane that
would charge you $400 minimum. I also know an electrician that would let me
use his truck for the cost of gas.
Ask around and you may find a friend of a friend that has a rig and will
work for cheap. Know anyone working for a sign company?
Small jobs cost more per hour than large jobs, because you pretty much
ruin a good chunk of the day for the people involved. (Can't patch or
paint till the dew burns off, etc. ) They can only do another small job
that day, if they can book one close by. Any chance your neighbors need
the same work, and you can all hire the same guy?
There are firms that specialize in fussy high work like that- usually
call themselves specialty roofers or something similar. They do churches
and old business storefronts, mainly. Drive around your town and look
for churches and stores with similar high gingerbread, and stop in and
ask who they use. It ain't gonna be cheap, but it'll be cheaper than
inventing how to do it yourself.
Around here, $750 would not be at all out of line for high work like
that, especially if they have to pull a special permit to work from the
street with a bucket truck. Even retired bucket trucks from the power
company, like the local apartment painters use, cost 20 grand or so for
a reliable one. Not sure what high-reach manlifts cost to rent these
days. That is what a commercial painter would use instead of hanging
scaffold, at least in this part of the country.
My experience with hiring them to replace AC units is that $750 a day is in
the ballpark. In the current market, it might be less. When I am looking
for something like this, I put a WANTED ad on craigslist, or local
newspapers. There is a local AM radio show every morning for an hour that
is super at hitting the local market. You will find people you normally
would never find, and you may get a deal.
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 00:29:45 -0400, aemeijers wrote:
Around here it's about $300/day for rental of one of the small cherry
pickers (the ones that aren't built onto the back of a truck).
I've heard quite a few folk say that for a time-consuming job that'll
take more than a day it's more economical to buy an end-of-life truck-
based picker for a few thousand (craigslist, ebay etc.) and then sell it
again when you're done. somewhere around $3000 seems to be about right
for something that's beaten up (and no commercial business would touch)
but still functional.
I can tell you from the experiences of folks I know who have tried
buying an old bucket truck that you will spend way more than you think.
Typically those trucks are very well worn. Unless you own all of the
land say like a farm you will need to make it road worthy (inspection,
insurance etc) and then do lots more work replacing hoses etc. in order
to make it usable/safe.
The OPs $750 quote should generate a "when can you come" response from
him because it really is a fair price for the described work.
Re: cherry picker (bucket truck), are there overhead lines in the way?
If so can the truck park closer to the house, maybe on top of the
sidewalk so it will miss the wires? Have cones set up around the truck,
and if police tell them to move the truck, darn, it won't start. Then
pay the parking tickets.
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