Some are born to learn and then some are born brain dead like our troll (xModem). It's sad when someone wants to have a debate, but later you find they're incompetent to understand the simple charts which they're debating.
At least their shallow surveys are there for the shallow minded people like xModem.
Why else would they purchase a CR magazine? LOL
No need to apologize to xModem, he's to incompetent to understand a simple survey example.
So why did you post about your equipment experience? Why don't you want validatation for a survey which you think is correct? Do you always believe in bullshit reports?
Facts, just facts that you can't argue with. You can't come up with anything to discredit MY facts. You give up because you know you lost and the best man won.
Do you want me to type out a survey real s..l..o..w, so you can learn how to read and understand them. LOL
Again 12 big brands... is Thermopride and the others not major players in the heating industry? Then you're using a 2004 survey for rating current brands for 2007? Do you realize that is 3 years later? Do you know that manufacture's change their equipment at least once a year? That in itself makes the survey out to be a JOKE.
BULLSHIT, most equipment failures are because of installation issues.
They should include a disclaimer... something like this.
*** Our survey is based on statistics that are gathered from people that have very limited knowledge of HVAC systems. This can leave you with results that may be conflicting to actual data gathered by professionals. You should always consult a professional for further information pertaining to your HVAC equipment needs. ***
I told you. I don't give a shit. I'm only interested in those 12.
I already mentioned when it was done.
Don't argue with me, idiot. I didn't write the survey.
We've been over this. If a homeowner can't get his furnace working, it's a problem. He doesn't need knowledge to know he's freezing.
I'm sure if you contact Consumers Union, and tell them who you are, they'll issue an abject apology, and print your findings. After all, they've only been in the business since the 1930's, and don't have much experience. Bwahaha.
So in a court of law, the Judge would rather take advice from 36,000 people who have limited knowledge of HVAC over a professional in the HVAC industry? You're so funny...
You've lost this debate, Boy.
Try reading it this time...
D o y o u w a n t m e t o t y p e o u t a s u r v e y r e a l s l o w , s o y o u c a n l e a r n h o w t o r e a d a n d u n d e r s t a n d t h e m ?
Was that slow enough for you to understand the question?
Do you practice being f****ng dense, or does it come natural? ONCE MORE. IF THE FURNACE DOESN'T WORK, THE OWNER CALLS FOR SERVICE. THIS "SERVICE CALL" IS THE BASIS OF THE SURVEY, NOT THE REASON FOR THE CALL.
Funny. You keep saying that, but you keep rambling on.
You HAVE no survey, asshat. Your "figures" were pulled out of your ass, along with your logic.
And again, for the 10th time, you've posted your own faux survey. Since it isn't a legitimate survey, it doesn't warrant consideration.
And once again, since you're insisting that bad installation is the main reason for the lower rated units, that simply shows that your chances of getting a shittier installation on the lower-ranked units, is much higher than on the top-ranked ones.
And also once again, when the homeowner turns on his furnace, and it doesn't work, that's a problem. Doesn't matter WHY there's a problem, only that there IS a problem.
Because I don't think it is a joke. Your survey is a joke, because it is no survey. But you already knew that.
Of course. No argument from me on that. But quality doesn't matter, remember? It's all in the installation. LOL.
They were the subject of the survey. The survey is what's under discussion.
If you were paying attention, you'd see that when I posted the ratings, I specifically mentioned it was a 2004 survey.
I've answered you ad nauseam. That you're too dense to understand is of no consequence to me.
Goddamn... For the umpteenth time, HE DOESN'T NEED TO KNOW. All that he's concerned with is that his furnace isn't working. He's had to call a repairman.
But, it wasn't till you made your inaccurate statement that you didn't want to discuss it further.
Do you want help understanding Survey's 101? LMAO
Nope, it happens with *all* brands.
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Again, they're ranking the brands. It does matter if it's an installation issue, because that's not the equipments fault that it broke down, you freaking idiot!
It's a simple example of a survey that you couldn't understand.
How's that 'Understanding Survey's 101' coming along? LOL
I tried that before with you. You kept refusing to answer, claiming that the ONLY thing I should worry about is competent installation.
Try an pay attention.
I understand completely, just as any 6th grader would as well. Perhaps you should go find a 6th grader.
I said that. Right up front.
Sure. It's an aggregate rating. Go look that up. Of course ALL brands change. In all the ones in the survey, the Goodman brands fared the worst.
Coarse? Ok Fine.
3rd time you've claimed this, but you're still yapping. You may force me to change your name from Fred Astaire to Monty Python's Black Knight.
Of course you know surveys better than an outfit doing them for 70 years.
I didn't refuse to answer anything, unlike you who doesn't know how to read survey's. Then later even forget what you posted about them. LOL
My attention is on how you think a bullshit survey is providing you with accurate results. LOL
There you go, obsessing about little children again. You should really find someone to help you with your problem.
And that makes it accurate in what way? LOL
More bullshit by the incompetent Boy.
What's that Boy?
Sorry you don't like facts... just like a little cry baby.
I know HVAC and that allows me to understand why their survey is based on inaccurate facts. Just like all the rest of the bullshit you've posted.
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