Read other posts where it states the mother-in-law lives there. It has been
in the family for many decades and is maintained 100% including the past
removal of leaves and branches for some time. I think it is about time the
owners of the trees take some responsibility but they have refused to
respond to such requests. The 80 year old lady should be rewarded for
putting up with ignorance. If it were your mother you would feel differently
I am sure. Then again maybe not.
The ignorant one here is not the neighbor, it's you John. You came
in here not knowing anything about the law regarding this issue.
Yet, you're sending letters making demands of your neighbor. Don't
you think you should find out what is right and legal BEFORE you start
telling neighbors what they must do?
Go check with a lawyer. In most areas of the US, you can trim those
branches of the neighbor's tree back to your property line. But the
neighbor is under no obligation to pay for it, nor are they
responsible for dealing with the leaves. Now, you may find
differently in your location. But I'm betting you won't.
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:05:13 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Once more with feeling, John: find out if you are legally allowed to
trim the tree limbs to the property line. Like Trader4 says, you
likely are, but really should check first. CAVEAT: you cannot trim
so much that the tree dies as a result.
Ignore your neighbor: he probably has no legal responsibility for
what happens on your property if the law allows you to trim the limbs.
Just trim them yourself and be done with it, if it makes you happy.
But I agree, it probably won't reduce the leaf output a whole lot, so
wouldn't your energies be better spent just managing the leaves?
They're a feature of the property, and if you leave the limbs
(assuming they're not too low), the tree helps the property look even
better, which will make it easier to sell when the mother-in-law is
ready to move out. Take the long view. There are worse problems than
this given that your property no doubt looks a lot better than the
I am not and never was trying to make a federal case of this simple search
for clues as to how others have dealt with this. All I am saying is that
when I am unable to attend to this the old lady is the main one that it
bothers. If she were to slip and fall on slippery leaves that have taken
over her walk way one might look at this in a different light. She still
drives her car and still likes to get around without having to deal with
what otherwise would be nothing and I still have to find a way to make
I know it is a lazy Sunday and obviously many have nothing better to do and
I was not anticipating this would grow to a full blown major problem that so
many would feel compelled to offer so many opinions with never personally
having to deal with it themselves.
Honey, suppose it snows, and this little old lady slips and falls? Who
you gonna blame? Hello???
I'm not unsympathetic to your situation as my parents are very close
to your mother-in-law's age. I also understand the parameters here
and work within them.
Snow is my responsibility unless is comes from the guy next door tossing it
over the fence. My wife and I have always taken good care of her and always
will and I am only reacting to her point. If she slips on snow I don't think
it would be the same as something that can be prevented. She mentioned that
she would love to remove them herself jokingly. Feisty lady that she is.
Oh friggin great! Some old bat can't even walk, and you let her behind the
If you really care anything about her, it's time to take the keys away.
But, since you don't have any balls, I doubt that will happen.
I first thought you were a troll, since you seem to get some pleasure
from ignoring the good advice already posted and getting into name
First, only a really ignorant person would seek what is is essence legal
advice on usenet. Everyone here is anonymous, and no one has any
discernible credentials to give such advice. You apparently do not
understand that the law varies from place to place, and that what
someone has done in one place legally may, in another place, be contrary
to the law. Even the old common law advice that you can do anything to
anything within your airspace is no longer reliable, as many
jurisdictions now have restrictions, particularly on trimming or
removing trees. The best advice you have received and ignored is to
contact your local authorities to find out what you can do; contacting a
competent lawyer would be even better, as the local authorities are
often not well educated and simply tell you what their books say you can
or cannot do; their books may, of course, not agree with the law, but
they would no know that.
You have been, if I read this thread accurately, somewhat dishonest when
you describe this as your property; now you seem to say that it is your
mother-in-law's property. Which is it? If it is hers then you are not
the owner and have no rights to do anything, which may be why no one
responds to your correspondence. Let me say that again, as you appear
intent on not getting anything that doesn't agree with your
preconceptions. If you are not the owner of the property, you have no
rights to do anything to the property. If you have been retained by the
owner, that is something else, but you don't give any indication that
you are anything but a relative helping her out.
I suspect you won't do anything to resolve this alleged problem,
but will just continue babbling until usenet goes out of existence, so I
am placing you on auto-flush, hoping to never again see your postings.
And that means what??? You need professional help. If you feel
compelled to rake the leaves every hour to "get them all" then you
have OCD and need treatment, perhaps medication. Get to a doctor
Reread what he posted. He maintains his property and the neighbor could
care less about even cutting their grass. So it would seem that the
leaves are just the tip of the iceberg. If someone lives in an urban
environment they agree to be like the others in the area including
maintaining their surroundings. The neighbor is the one who doesn't know
how to play well with others.
This is what he posted:
"My neighbor has trees that hang all over my fence and more leaves
fall in my
yard then in his. I have to rake them every hour if I want them gone.
have a tree guy come in and cut the ones that hang over and send him
bill? I have sent him countless letters asking him to do something
got no response. What are my options in the matter does anyone know?
He maintains his property and the neighbor could
Oh, really, is that how it works in your area? Is that a new law?
Did you sign such an agreement when you bought your house? If I buy
a house and the neighborhood happens to be overwhelmingly Protestant,
must I convert? Or the neighbors let their 5 year olds play in the
middle of the street. Must I do that too? If I'm balck and move
into a white neighborhood, well, I guess that would be a real tough
The neighbor is the one who doesn't know
Before deciding who is right and who is wrong, you better go check the
law, instead of making an ass of yourself like the OP. This isn't
anything new and has been settled for hundreds of years. Some areas
could have differing laws, but for most of the US you'll almost
1 - The leaves are considered part of nature, can blow anywhere and
the neighbor isn't responsible for cleaning them off the OP's yard or
for trimming the overhanging branches.
2 - If the OP wants to trim the branches back, he can to the property
line, at his own expense. Whether that makes any sense to do is an
entirely different question.
Yes, I know exactly what you meant. If I was your neighbor, you'd
expect me to come over and clean off the leaves from my trees that
wind up on your lawn, because you're clueless both about the law and
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