Calif says "not so fast" to oil changes

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"The long-held notion that the oil should be changed every 3,000 miles is so prevalent that California officials have launched a campaign to stop drivers from wasting millions of gallons of oil annually because they have their vehicles serviced too often."
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-autos-oil-change-20111215,0,4554184.story
But if California drivers cut way back on oil changes, what will keep the storm drains lubricated?
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They certainly should be "severe service" if most of their driving is short trips (10 miles or less one way).
Harry K
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Isn't it just great to have a government so concerned about citizens that it advises people when to change their car oil + what is the best light bulb to use + what foods we should and should not eat +++++++++++.
Gives a person a nice warm feeling.
Bob-tx
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:14:32 -0600, "Bob-tx" <Live Spam free> wrote:

Glad CA is out of it's financial trouble, too.
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Both of my vehicles are mid-2000's with over 120K miles.
While I still change the oil more frequently than the manual says, I'm not as fixated on the "every 3000 miles" interval like I used to be.
I start thinking about it around 3K and get to it when I get to it. 1K to1.5K over doesn't bother me like it used.
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Is your house a vehicle? Does it move around on its own?? Or do you have to steer it???
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No. Maybe. Sometimes.
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<<Is your house a vehicle? Does it move around on its own?? Or do you have to steer it???>>
Is this Alt.Car.Repair? The subject at least deserved an OT marking. Too subtle, I guess.
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That's rich. One of the guys who starts more off topic threads here or revives ones that have been dead for a week, bitching about someone else starting one.
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Robert Green wrote:

One COULD say that many machines involved in home repair have oil-changing issues: lawnmowers, edgers, chainsaws, personal vibrators, and so on.
But you raise a good point, and I'm sorry. I started this thread. What happened was I thought this was of interest to many folks. I don't subscribe to alt.car.repair and this group seemed to be the closest, plus this group is filled with experts, experience, and elan.
With a couple of obvious exceptions.
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It is. I see no reason to be sorry. Many of us have used oil in the garage too.
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No apology necessary. I was trying a little dry humor to point out that you're coming perilously close to "I Hate America" HomeGuy in starting OT posts. Yours, of course, are a lot less inciteful (mostly <g>) and more insightful. Apparently it was interesting enough to enough people that it generated a fair number of responses although I don't think any agreement was reached on exactly when to change oil other than - "it depends."
FWIW, your OT posts are always more interesting than crap about bleeding speakers, Craftsmen penises and all the other drivel people feel compelled to respond to.
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Fine and dandy if you buy new vehicles every 3 or 4 years.
For those of us who keep cars, this is isn't such good advise.
For people who almost exclusively make short trips (less than a mile or two), the calendar, not the odometer is the way to go. Every 90 days, regardless of mileage. Presently I fall in this category, rarely going over 1,200... typically more like only 550 miles.
Those who's average use is long trips can think more like 5k miles. A long trip is one long enough to get the oil temp (not the water temp as displayed on the instrument panel) up over 212F, and keeping it above for 15 minutes or so. This will vary with ambient outside air temp's, but a good safe bet would half hour one way legs... the more the merrier.
Modern oils are still wonderful lubricants even at 10k miles plus. It's the contaminates that are the issue.
Erik
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On 12/16/2011 3:37 PM, Erik wrote: ...

That's absurdly short. If nothing else, take it out for a drive once in a while--the slight extra gas cost would be far cheaper in the long run than oil/filters/labor.
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On 12/16/2011 14:14, dpb wrote:

That's a valid point. Cars need to be driven enough to boil away the moisture in the engine and exhaust system. Instead of going to the market around the corner, go to one across town occasionally.
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My wife is in that category. I change the oil in her car once a year at best. Her last car was my hand-me-down and the engine was still great after 14 years. Rest of the car was going to crap though so I gave her mine with 130,000 miles.
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them another 12 years. I put on a few more miles and change oil every 4 months - which is usually about 4000Km. On my current car that is on Synthetic. The wife's car makes about 3000 Km on regular oil - it's 16 years old with 160,000Km. 3 changes a year. Used to do 4, but it got more miles then.
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HeyBub wrote:

Since I retired, I did not buy domestic brand car. My family always had good luck with Subaru, and Honda/Acura. Our oil change interval is 10K Km. Have not experienced lubrication related premature engine trouble. Only one thing, I always replace oil PU tube on Subaru 4 banger boxer engines. PU tube is poorly made and I replace it with after market heavy duty one. It is known weakness.
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On 12/16/2011 8:22 AM, HeyBub wrote:

3000 it is here. always has been, always will be. No multi-vis shit either.
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