Both Travelers Hot - Lights Don't Work - Can Anyone Help

Hi,

I have a problem that doesn't make any sense to me.

I have two outside lights (one on my patio and one on a post) that are wired via two three way switches - one in the hall and one in the garage. The common on the hall switch is hot, with two orange travelers to the 3 way switch in the garage. The outside light is wired via 2 connect. romex to the slave three way switch via wire tie from a red wire on the common on the garage switch, with the other end of the red wire routed through the conduit with the orange travelers to the hall switch. The red wire then feeds up to the patio light just above the hall switch. The neutral is via a 14/2 between the two switches (neutral from the outside light also through conduit and tied into multi-connect along with neutral from patio light.)

The lights stopped working and I have no power to either light, and no power to either traveler on the slave three way in the garage. However, both orange wires light up at all times on the master three way which has the hot for the common! I did many continuity tests - neither orange traveler shows connectivity between one switch and the other. I eliminated shorting because none of the orange traveler wires (from either way) shows continuity to ground. I tested the switches via the continuity tester and they work fine - continuity is alternated between non-common terminals.

What could possibly be showing both traveler terminals as hot on the master 3 way - this should never happen. There is no other switch I could find that would break the continuity of the travelers. If there was another switch which was a three way instead of a required 4 way and the extra traveler was tied, this could cause the hot feed back to the other traveler on the master, but I don't have any other switches besides the two.

If anyone can offer any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Meanwhile I'll have to tear the house apart locating a junction box or switch box where the travelers route through.

Thanks very very much for any help you can give!!

Reply to
windsor351
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While I don't quite understand your description of the problem, one thing is certain. The travelers must have continuity from switch to switch. You need to find your open circuit first.

Reply to
RBM

I would guess that a) you're not understanding the circuit properly, or b) you have a major problem with the wiring, outside of these two boxes.

-Tim

Reply to
Tim Fischer

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