My friend's dad has had a plumber ascertain that he has a carbon
monoxide leak problem with his boiler. The plumber is someone he's
employed for 20 years and so my friend's dad is loathe to emply
someone else. The plumber isn't able to sort it out till January the
6th, and who knows hoe long it's been a leak. My friend has been
feeling giddy on her visits. It's not council property, but her dad
is in the middle of a depression since his wife's death, and of course
it's not a season to have the windows all open and maybe he's a bit
muddled by the leak.
Should we be concerned? Should this job be done pretty sharpish? My
friend isn't keen on visiting too soon because of how she felt on her
last visit. If it's not too concerning, what things can be done in
I don't know diddly about this kind of thing, but it feels like
something that needs sorting out as a matter of urgency. The only
time I've ever heard of carbon monoxide is when it's part of the
phrase 'carbon monoxide poisoning'.
Thanks in advance.
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:43:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I had to read a few posts to be sure.
Are you saying this 'plumber' did not turn the boiler off right there and
then? If it IS leak CO into the house there are only two courses of action:
Fix it or label it as dangerous (and disconnect it).
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
He should have disconnected the gas supply from the
boiler there and then, and attached a notice that it
mustn't be used until fixed.
This is supposing the leak is genuine, and not a case
of trying to scare an old person into paying for a new
heating system when it wasn't required.
If there's no other source of heating and hot water, the
house is effectively uninhabitable (particularly by an
elderly person) at this time of year, until it's fixed.
Can dad stay with the daughter until you get someone to
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If the plumber hasn't switched off the boiler, then: (a) he's
criminally irresponsible, or (b) the leak isn't significant, or (c)
it's a con to sell a new boiler, as Andrew suggests -- there seems to
be a lot of "can't repair it, guv, you need a new one" around atm.
If dad's not prepared to switch off, open a window (if only in the
room the boiler is situated), or spend Xmas with his daughter, I
suggest that he gets a CO detector PDQ which should establish whether
there's any real danger.
What you should do is get 2 good digital Co meters, like Nighthawk
that have a memory function and put one near the heating unit and one
in the living area and monitor them by pressing the "Peak" memory
function. I would not trust any 'Friend" haa ha who let it running,
gee I dont trust anyone anymore, to many liars out there for a buck.
You have no idea of the cause , if in fact it is bad, it could be a
dead bird in the chimney, a loose chimney pipe, or no problem at all,
and you want so spend thousands. Our 25yr old friend is a crook, maybe
your 20yr old one is too. Call another co to diagnose it if in fact
you have a leak. Even if a Co alarm doesnt go off it does not mean
there is not a health issue, thats why you monitor its memory peak,
and reset it. Go to the hardware store and get a few units and see for
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:56:14 -0800, poachedeggs wrote:
He needs to find another plumber - or preferably a qualified and
registered gas installer. If his boiler's leaking CO it *must* be
categorised as "Immediate Danger" and shut off. If friend's dad's plumber
didn't do that he's incompetent.
I suggest you or your friend call the gas emergency service (formerly
Transco) on 0800 111 999 and explain your concerns. Really.
And get round there with some electric heaters and hot water bottles for
the old boy.
Since it was left running it could be like the car salesman saying you
car is dangerous, buy this one. Any "friend" would have gone and
bought a Co meter, or diagnosed and fixed the issue, or done alot more
than just say "its leakin Co, I gotta go" I know a here dealers
purposly break or put in scratches to make it look like the exchanger
is cracked, but this lifelong "friend" did nothing but ask for a job.
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