I have a balcony on the back of my house. It is outside the master
bedroom, with a sliding door leading out to it. The sliding door
needs to be replaced. My problem is getting it to the second floor.
Because of turns, it can't really go through the house, at least not
without first being dismantled. If I dismantle it first, I can't be
sure it won't leak later.
The door is extremely heavy. The balcony is about 9-10 feet off the
ground. The area is not accessible for a boom truck. The skidsteers/
forklifts can't go higher than 8 feet.
My thoughts were: 1) get long 2 x 12s and ease the door up them on an
angle using ropes, 2) make a set of satirs to walk it up (perhaps
ridiculously labor intensive) 3) get really strong giants to carry it
Does anyone have any better ideas?
Sure, penetrate the roof to mount a block and tackle for a one-time job. #1,
the long planks, is the way to go. Use a block'n'tackle or come-along
attached to a padded 4x4 propped up high across the INSIDE of the doorframe,
plus several guys pushing from below to take the strain off the winching
device. Standard warnings about proper rigging and spotters apply. You never
want humans under a non-belayed load. Most of the weight will be caught by
the ramp boards, but if the thing got loose and slid down the boards, it
could still cause serious injury. If you can tempararily take down a section
of deck railing, that would simplify matters. Once the top half of the new
door is above deck level, just lay it down on the deck and slide it, then
stand it up.
Of course not. You run cables over the roof and tie off to either a light
pole at the street, or the bumper of a pickup truck. Hey, if you do that,
you don't need the block and tackle, just a driver for the truck. And a six
pack, of course.
Nobody said anything about penetrating the roof! The paucity of your
imagination prevented you from seeing the bigger picture.
The only way to achieve a mechanical advantage from BELOW the item is by the
use of levers (assuming you're not using hydraulics or other forms of
jacks). If operating from above, you can use pulleys and achieve a
MONSTOROUS mechanical advantage. A small child plucking a string can easily
lift several tons.
By attacking the problem from above, you reduce the problem from finding a
sufficiently long lever (bow to Archimedes) to one of attaching a block. The
attachement doesn't have to be the roof, a suitably tall A-frame would work
That'll work. Rip the door frame right outa the house so the doors can be
attached to the frame on the lawn.
I would look at taking the doors (glass) out. Usually you can, though
you might want to call the company who is making your unit. Then the
frame should be easy to lift up on the outside, and surely you have
the room to take the doors up inside the house. Otherwise, I think the
forklift idea is the best. Anything you build, be it off the roof or
a ramp is going to have to be real beefy and will take a lot of work
and materials. If you do go that route, I'd set up some scaffolding
in such a way that you could lift it in stages. But that would be a
I already have the door. I am planning to dismantle it and take the
glass out, but the frame itself is heavy as well, and would have
nothing to support it as I bring it up outside.
As for the suggestion to hoist from the roof, the roof is a mansard,
and its peak sits much higher than the balcony. I don't know if I'd
be able to get up there to do this comfortably.
I was at Menard's the other day and saw another 9 foot door they were
clearing out. I was at $400, plus delivery and a $20 second floor
charge. I was going to buy it, and use the original door for the
downstairs deck door. I will eventually need to replace that, so I
figured now might be the time to widen that doorway. All together, it
would have been about another $500, with a little lless carpentry
upstairs because the Menard's door was a closer to perfect fit. The
deck door would have been a lot more carpentry, with widening the door
and all, but it was a future project. It would have been an
acceptable tradeoff for me, at least in my mind at the time.
Unfortunately, the delivery guy at Menard's said it couldn't be done
with their forklift, since they can't go over 8 feet up.
So, I am at square one. A couple good suggestions here, but
unfortunatley nothing I can apply yet. I appreciate the efforts, and
would welcome additional suggestions, or even modifications of those
provided. Thanks again.
Have you considered renting a drywall lift? You'll want to check the
load and height specs of the models available at your local rental
center, but 150lbs and 10' lifting height shouldn't be a problem.
Please let me know when you do this, so I can film it. I want to send
it in to Funniest Home Videos.
If you do this, attach some rungs between the 2x212s to keep them a
fixed distance, and triangulate part of it so it doesn't all fold upp.
Other people have tried things liek this that make it FHV, so be sure
to let me know when you are doing it. I hear they pay for some of the
videos they show.
Have a couple people review your plans once they have developed. Tell
them to bring their cameras too.
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