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All, beware of a cabinet company called Gourmet Kitchens Design based out of Sacramento, CA and has an office in Danville, ca. The owner Rick is a crook, who writes bad checks. He is untrustworthy and does not do anything he says he is contracted for. His customer service is the worst and when you confornt him he lies. His wife Cathy is suspect as well, only because she probably doesn't know what he does. This company shafted me on kitchen cabinets worth 100,000 just becuase of his design mistakes and his inability to fix them. almost two years later I now have to turn him into the DA's office for writing bad checks. Stay away
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snipped-for-privacy@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Gee, ya must have a really really really big kitchen .
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| > All, | > beware of a cabinet company called Gourmet Kitchens Design based out of | > Sacramento, CA and has an office in Danville, ca. The owner Rick is a | > crook, who writes bad checks.
my checks would have been valid had the one you wrote me cleared.
He is untrustworthy and does not do | > anything he says he is contracted for. His customer service is the | > worst and when you confornt him he lies. His wife Cathy is suspect as | > well, only because she probably doesn't know what he does.
actually Kathy does know what I am doing. you are just another customer that refuses to pay for the extras that were not in the original contract.
This | > company shafted me on kitchen cabinets worth 100,000 just becuase of | > his design mistakes and his inability to fix them. almost two years | > later I now have to turn him into the DA's office for writing bad | > checks. Stay away
design mistakes? what mistakes? you never mentioned that to me in person. instead you complain where no-one knows you or me. keep it up and you will have your hands full of legal matters.
| | Gee, ya must have a really really really big kitchen .
actually it wasn't that big of a kitchen just quality cabinets for agreat price. I could have sold them for $125,000 I do need to put 3 kids in college soon. |
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snipped-for-privacy@sbcglobal.net wrote:

You might want to consider whether you want to defend yourself against a slander / libel / defamation lawsuit before your next pass at spamming various newsgroups.
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If he can prove the company did not deliver as promised the poster is well within his rights to post facts.
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snipped-for-privacy@backpacker.com wrote:

That's a big if, and he should refrain from spamming until he has a legal judgment to back it up.
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snipped-for-privacy@backpacker.com wrote:

The only way he could prove that would be to produce the docket number where he was found correct. Anything else is conjecture.
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snipped-for-privacy@backpacker.com writes:

How can the poster guarantee, however "does not do anything he says he is contracted for."
Those are silly statements of fact that take only a single completed contract to disprove.
You're usually safe if you stick to posting factual information you can prove about your own personal experience, but generalizing is a good way to get yourself in trouble.
AT any rate the cabinet maker dude sounds like a real ass to be avoided based on what the guy has posted.
-- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net /
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I remember the lemon decorated cars parked across the street from auto dealerships. There were court granted injunctions, in some cases. Now we have Usenet and don't have to do that. This libel/slander stuff is probably not applicable in cases such as these as the contractor would have to demonstrate damage. I would not worry about statements such as the one below.
"You might want to consider whether you want to defend yourself against a slander / libel / defamation lawsuit before your next pass at spamming various newsgroups."
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Todd H. wrote:

I don't want to take sides here because I don't know either party involved, but I would never make a decision based on a post like that.
I once hired a contractor to do some exterior house repair and painting for me. He
- hired a teenager who had never used a power washer to wash the house. The teenager promptly sprayed water into my attic vents before he ran out of gas and stood around for 30 minutes not knowing what to do.
- used nongalvanized nails to put up exterior siding, which naturally started rusting through the paint within a week.
- used only one coat of paint on some sections of the house, allowing the initial gary color of the siding to show through.
- got a bathroom remodel job in the middle of my job and left mine without saying anything to go do that one.
- ignored so many calls to come back and complete the job that I was about to go file suit against him when he finally came back and did a rush-job finish.
Those are all specific, factual claims that give an accurate depiction of the contractor. The original post here was full of exaggeration and speculation. It was not so much a warning against a contractor as it is an angry consumer's venting -- but there are a lot of unreasonable consumers out there who vent against good, professional contractors simply because the contractor won't jump through their hoops. The somewhat irrational nature of the original post makes me suspect that the fault here does not lie entirely with the contractor -- and maybe not at all with the contractor.
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BZ wrote:

Reminds me of a case..... A client hires an architect.
Client claims is unhappy with the architect, refuses to pay for drawings, fires architect when design is about 60% complete.
Client hires a contractor to build the house based on the incomplete, unfinished, and unsealed drawings from the architect, that the client has still not paid for, without knowledge of the architect.
Contractor cannot complete the house based on those plans.
Client sues architect for incompetence and malpractice, based on the fact that the contractor couldn't finish the house.
Go figure. It cost the architect a bundle to avoid paying for the house, although the client and the contractor violated several laws and the county permitting department issued a building permit on the basis of unsealed drawings, another violation of state law.
I put little stock in customer rants....
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wrote:

Architect recovers losses by suing for copyright infringement...
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Another architect without malpractice insurance?
although the client and the contractor violated several laws and

Didn't the architect put a lien on the house for non payment? I think if the homeowner fake the wet stamp on the plans to get it through the permit department, that's a felony in my state. Anyway looks like the homeowner could be in a lot of trouble if the architect wants to pursue it.

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this is a bullshit story if I ever heard one most town halls will give you "their" stamp on the plans (don't need architects stamp) heck, I could get a building permit if I wrote a plan on a napkin and town hall approves it ,and they will, as long as you are not building with engineered lumber.
if the client fired the architect before the plans were finished the architect is not responsible for any damages. but should have placed a lien on the property. and as for the contractor who took the job and didn't complete the project based on the incomplete plans. He is still liable to complete the job if under contract. most contracts state that the project will be completed as per plan. it sounds like the client was out to screw everyone involved from day 1. the client must have been a lawyer.
| BZ wrote: | > It was not so much a warning against a contractor as it is | > an angry consumer's venting -- but there are a lot of unreasonable | > consumers out there who vent against good, professional contractors | > simply because the contractor won't jump through their hoops. The | > somewhat irrational nature of the original post makes me suspect that | > the fault here does not lie entirely with the contractor -- and maybe | > not at all with the contractor. | | Reminds me of a case..... A client hires an architect. | | Client claims is unhappy with the architect, refuses to pay for | drawings, fires architect when design is about 60% complete. | | Client hires a contractor to build the house based on the incomplete, | unfinished, and unsealed drawings from the architect, that the client | has still not paid for, without knowledge of the architect. | | Contractor cannot complete the house based on those plans. | | Client sues architect for incompetence and malpractice, based on the | fact that the contractor couldn't finish the house. | | Go figure. It cost the architect a bundle to avoid paying for the | house, although the client and the contractor violated several laws and | the county permitting department issued a building permit on the basis | of unsealed drawings, another violation of state law. | | I put little stock in customer rants....
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Good for you. In my town you won't for a major project, like a house.
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That is not true everywhere for sure. On the other hand there are plenty of places that don't even have a building department. (no permits or inspections)
In Florida you will need engineering to build a shed. The building department will give you an engineered plan but if it is non-conforming you WILL be tearing it down.
http://www.lee-county.com/dcd/BuildingServices/Permitting/ShedAppReq.htm
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Rick wrote:

Ever try to build in a hurricane state? You need an architect's *and* an engineer's stamp on *every* set of plans you submit. You also need surveyor's certificates of flood elevation.
In other states, it may be different. Just because "it ain't that way where I live" doesn't mean it holds for the rest of the world....
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True, but it can cost him thousands in legal fees to prove it is facts.
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Not really- a signed contract, copies of any cancelled checks/receipts, and a photo showing work was not done. Add a phone log showing attempts to contact and its pretty cut and dried that the contractor did not deliver. The passing bad checks statement may be a sticy point but saying "XXX did not deliver , took my money etc" is easily proven.
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What about the legal fees when the other guy drags him through the courts?
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