founding fathers that legalized slavery and prohibited women from voting wouldn't get much compassion for how they felt about what we've done or become.
fortunately we've seen just how smart it is to keep the church and state seperate
I like it. A society run and totally influenced by republicans. No foreign players on baseball, football or basketball teams, no foreign workers (can't have even legal ones because there is too much chance of illegals infiltrating) so there is no fresh fruit or veggies or even beef, pork or poultry and all those Mac Mansions will have brown landscape dominated by weeds. And all the bastards will all be republicans or there will be a great tourist boom for single republican mothers-to-be flying to more enlightened countries for their "touch-ups"
Nonsense. First of all there are a whole bunch of things that are going to be required to be covered as preventive services that aren't now. As currently written these will mean new policies and that they can't be grandfathered in. Secondly, there are many indications that businesses of all sizes will be jetisoning their insurance because the fines are a lot less than the costs of insurance. An analyst from McKinsey & Company says that something in the range of 80 to 100 million individuals are going to change coverage categories in the two years post-2014. They will lose their employer coverage, move into exchanges, or go on to Medicaid. This would be an extraordinary disruption that will cause widespread outrage. This pretty well established by other studies.
Inheritance taxes are put in place, and rather blantantly if you listen to the people pushing them, solely to punish those who make so much money that they offend the pushers. Inheritances should be taxed by what they are. If business, then the inheritors pay the cap gains tax just like they would have if they had bought it (and get the stepped up basis).
Nope. It, like a lot of what the constitution says, just says that they can't pass laws establishing a religion, not that individuals can't do what they want merely because they are government employees. I actually think about the only time they got it right recenty was on the pledge of allegiance. The "under God" wasn't in the original until a law was passed adding it. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" pretty much says that it has to go. I also find it interesting that those pushing for this separation are actually calling for the prohibition of the free exercise thereof.
This in the land of the free, and home of the brave? No longer as free as we were. More legislation, ordering people how to run thier lives, under penalty of law.
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But the people who don't have health insurance will have to buy some,
Not at all.
Any religious person may run for office, or behave in a religious manner in matters of politics. As long as the Fed doesn't create a church or denomination (such as the Church of England).
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and you don't see that as requiring a separation?
With the elected immoral types we have now, I'd sure prefer to have church going and religious elected reps. State without church is like an axe murderer without a conscience.
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fortunately we've seen just how smart it is to keep the church and state seperate
Yep. I live in the largest school district in the country's largest (almost) state. Less than half of the payroll is spent on teachers. Oh, you've got to have people to drive the school busses, mop the halls, and, yes, print the paychecks, but only HALF of a school district's payroll for teachers?
It's insane.
But that's not all the government's fault. School systems are truly places were the insane are in charge of the asylum.
If the government prohibits proselytizing in government schools then, by definition, the government is meddling in the free exercize of religion. In your view, it seems, you would require those dedicated to spreading their word to affiliate themselves with a foreign deity to avoid offending the irreligious.
Surprisingly (I looked - I'm bored) there's a location approximately 30 miles from me. However, I do not have a credit line there, nor do I have one at any store... Although if Carquest or NAPA offered one, I probably would think about applying.
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You may be right Han, I was driving at the time and going by memory.
Not stupid. If my city government shuts down my favorite unsanitary taco stand, the city government has interfered with my choice of tacos. If my employer drops health coverage because of new regulations, I have been denied my choice of health insurance at a price that works for me.
Except that the government has declared (literally) millions of mortgages "wrong."
No. He was probably talking about private schools with vouchers or tax credits.
Whatever. It's still the GOVERNMENT picking, or at least removing one of the choices, on light bulbs.
And WTF does imported oil from Arab countries have to do with light bulbs? We use a miniscule amount of oil - either domestic or imported - to generate electricity.
By the way, we don't RELY on Arab oil for anything. In fact we get not a lot of oil from Arab countries. Our biggest foreign suppliers are Canada, Mexico, and Nigeria. I think Saudi Arabia is number four on the import list.
Since January 2009 'til now, gasoline prices have risen from $1.79 to $3.35 per gallon. What's changed? Canada is still there. Nigeria is still there. The same number of tankers are still at sea and the number of pipelines hasn't diminished. The number of miles driven on the nation's roads has GONE DOWN. No, the only difference between December 2008 and today which could account for the rise in gasoline and diesel prices is the presence of the Obama administration.
"The law phasing out traditional incandescent bulbs, in favor of more energy efficient ones, waspassed by Congress on Dec. 18, 2007 , and signed by Bush the following day."
FTFY
From a constructionist perspective, one does not have to do much research into the writings of the founders to find that their intention was indeed to erect a wall of separation between church and state. Thomas Jefferson himself used the phrase as early as 1802 to describe the intent of the "establishment clause."
if only you don't count those pesky chinese and indians, much less all those developing countries that find autos to be imperative.
You've answered your own question. With our demand down and the same number of tankers, the oil must be going somewhere else, which strangely due to that age old law of supply and demand, means that oil prices here have to go up.
But let's not forget those commodity traders who win more than the oil companies when they manipulate the price of oil. But you should be aware of that. Wasn't Houstons Enron great at manipulating the price of electricity and we knew that the demand and supply were the same almost all the time?
"Attila.Iskander" wrote in news:jfpq74$ol9$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:
I agree wholeheartedly.
So you would let pedophiles proselytize in gov't schools in the free exercise of their speech?
irreligious? big difference between being irreligious and non-religious or especially non-xian, but I bet you would be just as offended if your xian child was subjected to the very same proselytizing by muslims or jews in your "gov't" school.
and let's not forget how tolerant you xians were of the muslims that wanted to open a mosque just blocks away from the Towers site.
"Attila.Iskander" wrote in news:jfpq72$ol9$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:
If I knew that, I wouldn't be sitting here playing with a keyboard. But from the stories I hear from kids in school and from teachers I know (daughter and son-in-law living close by), if that could be done, we'd be lightyears ahead. Somewhere there should be psychologists (?) who could figure it out ...
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