My painter, for whom I had good references, has switched from Benjamin
Moore to Behr paints just before painting. Obviously, this made me a
bit suspicious. He said that Benjamin Moore has recently been sold and
that the color consistency has been uneven. Does this ring true to
anyone? The painter came highly recommended, but I've begun to wonder.
BS , Moore is expensive Behr is cheaper HD paint, not to say Behr is bad
, and I cant compare. But you are looking at him increasing his bottom
line. If he quoted Moore get what you paid for. If anything the amateurs
at HD will mix it wrong, That im sure of.
This is odd because Moore and Behr paints just came up the other day in a
conversation with my husband.
He had painted our newly-built garage in top-end Moore and loved the results
and how easy the paint was to work with. Everybody seems to be impressed with
the paint and he's gotten many comments from neighbors and some of the workmen
who had to come back to fix a few things. One neighbor said that he knows a
guy who is really high up in the Behr company and his whole house was painted
Good luck to you!
On 27 Aug 2004 17:53:04 -0700, email@example.com (TB) wrote:
I'm not positive, but I think Consumer Reports didn't give Behr a good
rating. Their top pick however was the Lowes paint, Valspar.
My experience with Behr wasn't good, and I really like the Valspar
Behr's premium line of paint recently kicked Benjamin Moore's butt in one of
the latest Consumer Reports issues. May have been interior paint - not
sure. If you don't subscribe, chk in library. It would be in painter's
interest to change to Behr, as it is cheaper for him, but may do just as
well for you. I think the color consistency is BS - this is a Red Herring,
I used Behr's Deck Plus to paint my deck. I used Behr #64 to stripe
off the old stain Flood oil-latex red stain. The first coat was washed
out in the hurricane Charlie, cause I painted a just a few hrs before
the hurricane. The second work I started almost a week after, in the
evening and since I forgot to stir the paint (5 gal bucket), next day
morning to our horror the paint work all turned out to be chalky and
the Gettysburg blue stains standing apart in patches where ever the
morning due/mist has formed a film of water. So I did start the 3rd
coat, after mixing the paint using a paint stirrer attached to an
electric drill, on a full day light under direct sun (not an good idea
according to Behr instruction). It looks good in the morning inspite
of the standing thin film of water on top of the yesterday paint work.
Can I call it success? Still the verdict is out with the sleeping home
inspectors (thats my wife and kids).
Thanks everyone who posted thoughtful answers--this is a pretty
amazing group that you can post a query at night and wake up to ten
responses. One more specific question. It looks as if we are switching
from Moore's Moorglo Softgloss Medium 0962b (fortified acrylic) to
Behr exterior flat/premium plus no. 4560. I've found that the Behr is
on sale (!) for $18.95 at Home Depot. Can anyone tell me what this
specific line of Moore sells for?
Thanks again to all.
Sounds like your painter isn't a professional painter.
Benny Moore does not mix by eye like the old days, except for custom mixed
_stains_. They use the latest technologies for computer color matching &
No real painter shops @ Home Depot for paint. No real painter would make
the claim Behr is better than Moore. Behr paints rate good in consumer
reports because a very large % of _retail_ people use it because of costs.
Bottom line is it is cheaper, and the layman believes all paints are equal,
most can not justify paying $3-$10 more per gallon for the superior product.
Your painter should _not_ be painting from one gallon to the next. They
should mix/blend when getting to the bottom of a gallon/bucket. This is
done even with the most expensive paints on the market. If your painter
isn't blending the last of their buckets, they really haven't a clue about
painting. The painter should not be painting straight out of the can, a
painter uses a paint bucket.
Might be time to begin more than wondering about your painter.
I'm not a booster of either HD or CU, but I've seen painters buy paint at
Home Depot. Maybe they were *posing* as painters, but those overalls looked
Consumers Reports cares little about sales volume, but they do rate paints
that have reasonably high sales volume, to limit number of trials, and
eliminate boutique sized paint companies, that are usually made by the big
manufacturers anyway. They rate paints by color retention, aging, ease of
application, etc, and have thorough aging tests in a variety of
environments, and take no advertising money. My experience is that I will
usually go with whatever the painter is comfortable with, unless the CU
evaluation is just rotten, when I ask him to change brands. Both Behr and
Ben Moore are rated fully acceptable, but Behr beats Moore in areas of price
and performance, and is not retail sales related at all, in my opinion.
You need to familiarize yourself with how Consumer Reports works, instead of
how you think it works. Once you become familiar with it, you understand
their reports are influenced by hundreds of thousands clueless
consumers/subscribers which put in their .02. These are the same consumers
which never thought about buying quality over cheapness.
Consumer doesn't take advertising money, but they sure haul in the _grant_
money from manufacturers.
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