I'm looking to upgrade the windows in my house and I would appreciate an
opinion as to whether it is worth the extra expense to have Argon in them.
What I'm looking at is the Vinyl widows from home Depot and I live in Ft.
Your help will be appreciated.
How replacing a glass will fix it? You mean sealed inserts?
Most units come with 5-10 years warranty. They just replace whole unit
if it fails within the warranty period. Again, same here, "You get what
you pay for" My 10 year old house has those windows in metal clad.
One leaked right after we moved in, it was damaged during installation
which was not noticed. They replaced it on warranty pronto at no cost.
Still all other units are holding and working good.
I meant replace the sealed unit. I am not aware of any
reasonably-priced procedure to "reseal" existing windows. I might
trust Pella's or Anderson's warranty more than others because of the
longevity of the name. A warranty is of no value unless it is
If the seal goes and it leaks out, it will be replaced by normal
atmospheric "air" which contains moisture. When it gets cold the moisture
will condense and be visible on the glass inside the (formerly) sealed pane
My windows came from another BORG but Home Depot now carries
the same brand, so could be the same brand as you are
looking at or a different brand than here in the northwest.
There wasn't much difference in cost between argon and no
argon. Although one of my windows does not have argon, I
can't perceptually tell any difference after 2 years.
Performance rating of the argon type is only slightly higher
than non argon. In any case, my understanding is that argon
is known to leak out after a few years. If you want argon
get argon. But, don't pay a premium for a window supposedly
guaranteed for a long period. Double pain windows (argon or
no) routinely fail after 15-20 years. Failure rate for
cheaper brands such as the BORGs sell is not likely to be
much different than all but the highest rated (and very
expensive) window. Personally I would get all of the
options including argon.
One word of caution. Look the windows over very carefully
before taking them home and when you get the windows home,
look each window over very carefully again for scratches.
You will find that store people can be rather casual about
handling glass and some windows have bad scratches which may
be difficult to see. You want to catch those and take them
back to the store for replacement before you install them.
After installation, the sliding or moving parts of the
window are easily changed if you can get the store to do it,
but the not moving parts are much more difficult and you
could end up with appearance defects even if a professional
Lewis Campbell wrote:
Don't waste you money on this unless the window is guaranteed for a long
time for both replacement of the window and removal and re-installation.
Argon is a fairly small molecule which will, over time pass through
faults in the seal. When barometric pressure is low there will be a
pressure gradient that will force the argon out. When the pressure
rises the atmosphere outside is predominantly nitrogen, much larger that
argon, and it won't flow back in. Over time the the inside and outside
panes will touch. I have 50 Andersen windows in one of my homes that
have failed in this manner. The Newton's rings seen as the two panes
approach one another may be a curiosity but the are not what you want.
Lewis Campbell wrote:
Wow! While I've seen sealed windows with panes that had
obvious concave curves (based on reflection), I have never
seen sealed glass windows where the two panes touched.
Concave curvatures were observed in new construction which
lead me to think they were due to the manufacturing process.
Older windows usually don't exhibit such extreme curvature.
Based on what I have read, gradual leakage of Argon is
common, but failure of the window seal, leaking water vapor,
happens long after the Argon is lost.
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