Is it Oppie of Jeffy...? ;)
Not sure where you are, but around here if an electrician gave me that
number I'd either kick him out the door figuring he was not legit and/
or crazy, or kiss the guy. Are there permits involved? How does the
utility figure into the changeover?
In any event, figuring materials are roughly the same, and the amount
of time involved, it is a good price wherever you are.
I would suggest that marking all circuits would be a good idea, and
should be done at the time of changeover. It's easier if you start
identifying circuits at the time of the disconnect. Put on all the
lights and plug in some low wattage things to most of the receptacles
(radios and lamps are good) and turn them on. When he turns off a
circuit, you'll be running around making a list of what got killed.
Staying in contact with the guy on a cell phone or walkie talkie helps
a lot while you're doing this.
To the extent that the existing wiring allows it, put lighting and
receptacles on different circuits (might not be possible at all).
Have a GFI breaker installed to cover the kitchen wet location
receptacles unless you already have GFI receptacles. If it's only one
outlet, such as in a bathroom, ask the guy which he would do more
cheaply, swap out the receptacle or install a breaker. It's kind of
an odd question normally as a single GFI is about four times cheaper
than a GFI breaker, but he'll already be in the basement and won't
have to go messing about elsewhere in the house. Obviously if you can
protect a number of outlets, the GFI breaker is the way to go.
I think you are going about this in an intelligent way. Asking the
questions up front and posting back with follow up information. Going
off half-cocked can get you half-killed or half-angry. ;) Good luck
with the project.
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. I always tell my friends that
these forums are the way to go to get all kinds of information,
especially when it comes to home repair and computer problems. You
just need to be careful at sorting out the information because you
never know who the guy on the other end is!
My electrician has always been reliable. It's a nice quote as the
neighbor across the street paid $1200 for essentially the same job,
but with a different contractor.
I guess then I should have sought your counsel before I did it. As it turned
out, I must have been beyond extremely fortunate I didn't kill myself, four
of my neighbors, a passing flock of sea gulls and started a fire that not
only destroyed the house but started a conflagration that consumed eight
more homes, twelve vehicles, and an abandoned burrito.
Maybe you have more experience than I in determining the level of common
sense of your fellow man. I hold that most people can figure out the simple
stuff involved in swapping out an electrical service box while other
nay-sayers here seem to be convinced that the OP stands a non-neglibible
chance of being dumber than a crate of anvils.
If so, your criticism might better be leveled at my Pollyanna attitude
toward the OP and the complexity of the project. You may very well be
correct that we have to modulate our advice to the stump-stupid level lest
some defective puts his finger in the saw.
Or, it could be you've been influenced by too many eight-page warning
brochures that come with step-stools ("do not use over much when wind is
It's a difficult call.
Not really. Let's review the events and weigh the facts:
You like to act like a bumpkin and give stupid advice to people on
You give bad advice when you have no clue where the person is located
or what their abilities are, and somehow these things are unimportant
You spout bullshit about conditions where _you_ live that is wrong.
You then call anything not in your area, or people that don't ignore
the things you do, benighted.
You make bad assumptions on pretty much everything.
So the call is...you give bad advice and don't know what you are
Not really difficult at all to see when you look at it objectively.
At first I didn't believe you when you said you went to law school. I
have changed my opinion. You did not say you are a lawyer, you said
you went to law school, so that means either you couldn't hack it in
law school (my guess), or didn't finish for some other reason (you
couldn't hack it), or finished school and couldn't pass the bar
(pretty fair second guess), or you were a lawyer and got disbarred.
Most people have a low enough opinion of lawyers as it is, so you
would be doing the legal profession a favor by not mentioning your
failed attempt at law.
You would be doing everybody a favor if you thought before you started
tapping the keyboard. It's a lot to ask, I know, but why not give it
a shot - you might surprise everyone.
Actually I went for a year and a half (about half way). At the end of my
first year I was ranked 18th out of 193 freshmen. I came to the view that,
while your lawyer is a nice guy and mine is a prince, the rest are thieves.
So your surmise, based on incomplete information and preconceived notions is
at least as faulty as your evaluation of my contributions.
It wasn't failed; I made the Dean's List.
I've given your suggestion all the consideration it deserves and have
concluded that it would be shameful indeed to deprive those, such as
yourself, the opportunity to rise up in righteous indignation. Fulminations
don't bother me; in fact I think advanced adrenaline levels are good for
So, until someone asks what to do about a red, oozing and fungating mass on
their inner thigh (or similar), just bide your time. I'll be back with more
outlandish suggestions. But all is not lost.
In deference to your refined sensibilities, I'll try to preface my remarks
with the following prelude:
"If you have (advanced, moderate, basic) skills and observe all the legal
niceties in your jurisdiction, then the following may be considered..."
Will that satisfy you?
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