Have you experience with using a remote propane monitor on your phone?
My thousand-gallon propane tank just ran almost dry (down to 20%) because
the propane company forgot to fill it on schedule at around 30%.
I had to make an emergency call, but I'm considering adding a $15 Rochester
Remote Ready (R3D) compatible level dial
And then I can connect the remote-sensing wifi hardware:
And then, on my Android or iOS mobile device, I can see the tank level in
real time using an app of my choice (after making sure I paint the tank
with WiFi, perhaps from a Ubiquiti bullet and cheap 14dBi antenna).
The batteries on the remote-sensing device last 2.5 years, but I can even
put a thumb-sized solar charger on it, since the requirements aren't all
Have any of you experience with such a thing?
I don't have any experience with a propane monitoring system, but if you want WiFi to cover your whole house and more than 10 acres of land, you need to get a long range, high power, outdoor router antenna, on the roof of your house, for around $80.00. No more dead spots. Adjustable power.
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:15:50 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
But I don't have experience with them.
The most often suggested is the first on this list:
It's this one:
On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 20:37:25 -0500, cowabunga dude wrote:
I recommend Ubiquiti equipment.
Cheap. Powerful. Lots of support. Nice forum.
That forum is kind of like the home repair forum, and absolutely nothing
like the Apple forum (which is filled with babies).
On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 8:11:11 PM UTC-4, cowabunga dude wrote:
want WiFi to cover your whole house and more than 10 acres of land, you nee
d to get a long range, high power, outdoor router antenna, on the roof of y
our house, for around $80.00. No more dead spots. Adjustable power.
If you have a house with propane on a 10 acre site, why do you need
to cover the whole property with wifi? I'm sure the majority
of people have a propane tank located a short distance from their
house, where it will be within wifi range.
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 19:16:06 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 wrote:
Most tanks are pretty close to the house.
They can't be closer than 25 feet from a flammable object (house included)
but they're usually not much further than 25 to 50 feet.
However, most companies who put in tanks include as part of the original
quote that they will lay 100 feet of pipe in a trench that you have to dig.
So, I would guess from that standard quote, that 100 feet is generally the
maximum for "most" homes.
On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 19:11:02 -0500, cowabunga dude wrote:
system, but if you want WiFi to cover your whole house
and more than 10 acres of land, you need to get a long
range, high power, outdoor router antenna, on the roof
of your house, for around $80.00. No more dead spots.
Painting a propane tank with WiFi is almost trivial, no matter how far away
from the house it may be.
Due to the nature of trenching requirements, most tanks are within 50 feet
of the house (although they can't be closer than 25 feet by code).
50 feet is absolutely nothing for a WiFi transmitter (we only use Ubiquiti
equipment such as a pico or nano or rocket).
We can paint a WiFi transmitter ten miles away with these things.
For someone who constantly trolls the Apple news groups with bullshit
claims that Android is the best mobile operating system for those who
want to protect their privacy, it's humorous that you would choose to
use a device that sends data about your propane and energy usage to
strange internet servers, proving you aren't at all concerned about
privacy and are just trolling. : D
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
First thing is to decide what kind of monitoring you want. There are some very
nice transponders that use cell data, but I'm not interested in paying $40 or
more a month for monitoring, even if it does monitoring by a phone app.
I just installed a remote level reader on a water tank 500' from the house. The
transmitter comes with a remote receiver that sits in the house and can be set
to alarm at an adjustable high or low level. I don't need to know the moment it
happens, so waiting until I'm home is fine.
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:25:54 -0600, crankypuss wrote:
I do the same as you, but many of the residents here are not home for many
months at a time (I don't think there is a single person here who only owns
a single home).
So you have to have someone *check* the tank if you don't have any way of
checking it yourself.
Out here, Amerigas and Suburban and Ferrell Gas will come on a calculated
But a 50,000 gallon pool sucks up propane like you can't believe; so it's
hard to calculate when you'll run out of fuel just after having left on a
3-month vacation (which many here do).
I have called all the propane suppliers in the area, and while some have
automatic tank-monitoring equipment (some use GPS satellites, others user
the customers' cellphone or landline), most don't have any automatic
In general, for the majority who don't offer automated level meters, they
tell me they visit when they *calculate* 30% to be the remaining fuel in
The question was asked for the residents in our homeowner association,
which covers everyone who lives in the surrounding mountains (a few hundred
homes in toto).
It wasn't necessarily asked for me (although my gas company already agreed
to give me a free R3D for my own tank). The R3D is about $15 bucks retail,
and the installation is trivial (two screws) but most people will opt for
the $50 installation fee to have the propane company install the dial.
Re-read what I wrote.
There was a temporal clause in there.
The heating of the pool came before the vacation.
If people don't check their tanks before going on vacation, then they might
be surprised how much fuel was used up in heating the pool.
It was just an example.
It sounds like you are now trying to claim that in your example, the
pool heater is in fact turned off before the people go on vacation,
but because it had been on, they hadn't realized how low the propane
tank had gotten. If that's the example you're now trying to use, then
the simple solution is for them to check the propane level before they
leave on vacation.
I can see the utility of being able to remotely check the level, but
it can't substitute for carelessness.
On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 12:49:20 PM UTC-4, Patty Winter wrote:
Actually the smartphone/remote monitoring is a substitute for some
level of carelessness. Like he pointed out, you could forget to check
while leaving for vacation and with remote capability, you can check,
recover, etc. Same thing with internet capable thermostats. If you
leave for a week and can't remember if you turned down the heat, it
solves that problem too.
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