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On 2/4/2014 12:58 PM, Peter wrote:

That last sentence sounds like our President. ^_^
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On 2/4/2014 10:35 AM, Peter wrote:

I do regret any resentment.
Feb 04, 2014. I'm in the truck listening to WYSL 1040AM, in NYS. It's about 12:15 Pm. The people on the show (didn't get the name of the show) are talking about a childrens hospital who had about 120 pediatric patients, needing care. They contacted ACA about all of them. They got about 20 replies, of any kind. 12 of those had approval or not, and 8 were disapproved. They may have a podcast if some one wants to get the rest of the details.
Sadly, the people in power are not as honorable as yourself.
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    There is no such thing as an "insurance company that is unable to pay for medicine". When they say that, they mean it might affect how much cocaine they can buy at the next office party.     Which is why I always say, if there is ever a possibility of a public health plan, choose that. Only private health insurance will limit what a doctor prescribes.     []'s
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treatments and other things that the PTB at Center For Medicare?Medicaid Studies (the people who make the decisions) decided they wouldn't pay for.
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On 2/4/2014 2:20 PM, Shadow wrote:

Well... as far as the military heath system is concerned... not completely so. The doc may prescribe what he/she feels is best, but whether or not the patient has easy and economical access to the med is a much more complicated issue.
Military pharmacies have formularies of what they keep in inventory to dispense and what they don't. The military MD can prescribe a med not on the pharmacy formulary list and try to make a case to the pharmacy for a special purchase for that patient. If successful, the drug will be obtained and dispensed without cost to the patient. If unsuccessful, and the doc still feels that specific drug is a "must have", he/she can write a prescription, provide it to the patient, and the patient might be able to fill it at minimal cost at the military mail order pharmacy if it is on their formulary. If not, the patient will have to fill it at a civilian pharmacy and there's a complicated chart to determine the Tricare (the DoD's health insurance program) copay for a 30 day or less supply.
So, at least considering the military's health plan, the doc can prescribe ad lib, but that doesn't mean that the patient gets it for free before leaving the building. Many times yes, sometimes no.
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    More or less the same here. If its WHO recommended, they get it free. If it is very expensive, local specialist hospitals can get it for you (as in cancer drugs) for free, but you would have to go to a specialist.      If it's one of those super-duper new experimental drugs, that give you a nice tour in Europe, chances would be slight.     The trouble is that there is a lot of WHO stuff that should not even be on the list, and that were bribed in .....     Lula implanted the best scheme, where you pay a small amount. Drugs costing 100 dollars can be had for less than 5 dollars at pharmacies with a federal government contract. People are less likely to throw stuff away if they have to pay for it, however little the cost.     I sometimes take atenolol. Twenty 50mg pills cost just over a dollar, and I can buy up to 3 boxes a month. The prescription is registered in a central database, so people do not resell the drugs.     []'s
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On 2/4/2014 6:59 PM, Shadow wrote:

I'm a big believer in copayments. If people have even a small investment, they perceive value, and are more likely to keep and use the meds.
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On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 07:22:46 -0500, Stormin Mormon

    Yep. I used to tire of going though the clinic's trash can. Amazing how much people with throw away if it's free.     Specially true when people want you to prescribe a drug they saw on TV, and you give them a far better free one.     []'s
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On 2/5/2014 8:53 AM, Shadow wrote:

Nothing like Googledocs, might have been you who mentioned that concept. Patients who have googled up their symptoms, and are totally convinced they know the diagnosis and treatment. That's got to be frustrating.
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On 2/5/2014 9:20 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/when-med-students-get-medical-students-disease/?_php=true&_type=blogs&partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lgv9ucl
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On 2/4/2014 2:20 PM, Shadow wrote:

I don't have the specifics, but I'm sure that the insurance companies don't have unlimited money like you suggest. Or more correctly, that they are buying [street] drugs instead of [prescribed patient] medicine.
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On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 17:42:44 -0500, Stormin Mormon

    Well, after I read this:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213
    I can imagine doctors prescribing cocaine for their rich patients.
    Party Use only     "Sniff one dose whenever you feel bored"     []'s
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On 02/04/2014 07:15 PM, Shadow wrote:

Laws are only for poor people.
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On 2/4/2014 6:15 PM, Shadow wrote:

actions of the Obama Administration. Those banks or bank are probably handling a lot of money for black ops and covert government agencies. Whenever I hear government is going to have to examine banks because drug dealers and terrorists are using them will give them an excuse to go through everyone's banking records because the citizenry must be protected. How many travelers have been molested by TSA agents to keep them safe and how many terrorists have been caught by the TSA. The DEA is a major money making operation with laws allowing them to take people's money and stuff because they find some plant that government has decided is contraband. Now because someone sold prescription drugs illegally, the DEA finds it necessary to screw with everybody. My own pharmacist and physician friend get a DEA audit all the time. My roommate's doctor had the DEA investigating him and my roommate because some bureaucrat decided my roommate was getting too much pain medication and must be selling it. All of JH's joints are swollen and he lives with severe chronic pain so the DEA is practicing medicine and wants to limit the amount of pain medication he can get. Hey, I know, we need the government to dig through all our bank records so we can be protected from drug cartels and terrorists. ^_^
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On 2/4/2014 8:22 AM, Peter wrote:

Stormy and me have something in common, a warped sense of humor and an affinity to yank someone's chain. Never to be taken seriously since you must look beyond the words. ^_^
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On 2/7/2014 6:03 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

Ah, now you outed me. I'm not only a climate racist, but have a warped sense of humor. Sigh. Life will never be the same.
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On 2/7/2014 7:27 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Hell fast. ^_^
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On 2/7/2014 11:46 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:

I'm only a womanizing alcoholic when I'm sober.
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On 2/4/2014 6:29 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I got my new script for Oxycodone. After zumpty sumpthin years of them putting acetominophen in there, something that they know causes liver rot, they finally took it out.
I had to sign a statement at the doctor's office, then one at the pharmacy, plus a private consultation at the pharmacy.
They know the stuff will kill you, and it takes 50 years to get it out. And yet they spend all this time protecting us pain patients from marijuana. Don't get me started on alcohol and cigarettes, other than they, too, are a personal choice, and if any adult wants to do them, they have the "right". Before do gooders, Mormons, and liberals step in, that is,
I still can't figure out how someone hasn't done the math, and seen all the tax money going out the window, and legalized pot. With its popularity, and ease of growth, a pack would be about fifteen cents. Oh, make thatk $9 per pack with taxes.
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On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:29:24 -0500, Stormin Mormon

    I have never had to phone anyone about a prescription. In fact, I could lose my license if I did. And I have always worked in a socialist system, never FOR a socialist system. Unlike the doctors that work FOR profit-making schemes.     Bias ? Re-read what you wrote.     []'s
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