| Fred wrote:
| > In my experience over the past 5 years or so, Black & Decker haven't
| > decent electric tool/appliance. I have bought one of their small
| > then returned it when the motor seized up after 2 months. The
| > worked for a year, then the motor developed an open circuit. Same for a
| > small jig saw -- the blade moved up and down at about a 5-degree angle
| > vertical. The same for a small electric screwdriver.
| > The company must have been taken over by some Wall Street group to suck
| > assets out of it, I don't know. Their stuff used to be quite good, but
| > I wouldn't touch any of their stuff, sorry to say.
| I quit buying their stuff long ago.
Is it a real company, or just a brand for "Made in China"?
I haven't found out whether this is the case or not as yet but I
suspect it is. The sad thing is that B&D also own the DeWalt brand as
well, so you can guess where the quality of this once proud power tool
range will end up.
Not related to anything, but GE employees call the GE logo the "meatball".
After seeing how they treated my friend, who is THE best salesman I have
ever seen, I wouldn't use a GE product to wipe my butt with.
He used to sell for one of their industrial divisions until he got fed up
and got a decent company to work for. They can't do a good job calling on
customers because HQ is always sending the latest green VP down to ride
around with them. Then, when they're allowed to plan their own day, they
have to limit their sales calls because of the time required to fill out the
reams of meaningless reports. In the mean time, their customers wait for
weeks for GE customer service to contact them. I myself was interested in
an industrial product and never did get anyone to give a reference on it.
Fred, I grew up way back when in a home that had to deal with GE and
all the crap they dish out.
My old man was an electrical engineer working in one of their
industrial divisions servicing motors and generators.
I still hate GE with my heart and soul to this very day.
It wasn't untill my old man tried to got the union in that he got a
It took over a year with GE pulling every criminal, dirty trick it
could to bust our efforts.
They even hired teamsters to come in and terrorize the families.
I took more than a few licks on that one, not to mention me and my
father having our cars bashed up on several occasions.
I wouldn't pollute my piss on a GE product.
I hear you about that. Typical plantation-minded company best I can tell.
One good thing about them.... they bought one of our major competitors a
couple of years ago. Now our company spends over half the time fixing their
products in the field and the other time replacing them!!
GE used to make really top notch stuff, sometime back in the 70's though
they started getting cheaper and at some point they passed a point of no
return. Today for the most part, GE is junk, the once renowned name is
| GE used to make really top notch stuff, sometime back in the 70's though
| they started getting cheaper and at some point they passed a point of no
| return. Today for the most part, GE is junk, the once renowned name is
| forever tarnished.
A lot of these old line names seem to be rented out to 'improve' crap these
days! You can usually tell when you see them used on some totally 'wrong'
product. "Bell and Howell Triple Head Shaver - As Seen On TV" comes to mind.
Bell and Howell Shavers??? What happened to their projectors?
Bell and Howell were into just about all types of manufacturing years
Especially the photographic industry.
Gunsight cameras, belly cameras etc...
Then there's all the actual general photgraphic cameras from still to
mopic.( in the 60's they marketed the most popular work horse 35mm
around under the pentax label. Spotmatic was it's name.)
Then of course there's all the WWII era cameras they made for th
military which were used right up to the late 70's.( their 16mm combat
movie cameras the KM, KLM, KRM 70 series. I used them during my combat
They also made slide strip projectors as well as movie film
They started out as principally a grinder of optical lenses and grew
Sounds like a familiar story - a company makes a name for itself in one
area, then establishes a good distribution network. Then some wall street
gobbler buys it for it's distribution network and used it to sell cheap junk
and trinkets. Then they unload the shell of the company after they have
sucked all the value out of it and run off their senior tech staff.
Back in the '60s (and possibly earlier) GE was a innovator in production
shortcuts. Since they also developed and manufactured electron tubes
and plastics, they took advantage of it in their consumer product
development. Their TVs were the first with polarized power cords,
presumably to assure acceptable performance.
From chapter 5 of 'Perfectly Legal' by David Cay Johnston:
'Jack Welch left GE in September 2001 after 41 years. His final
salary and bonus totaled $16.7 million. He also left with stock
options worth a quarter of a billion dollars and a pension that
shareholders were told was worth more than $9 million a year.'
This did not include the perks that were paid by GE, including a
Boing 737 for his personal use (page 61).
I guess that GE was doing fine for some.
| From chapter 5 of 'Perfectly Legal' by David Cay Johnston:
| 'Jack Welch left GE in September 2001 after 41 years. His final
| salary and bonus totaled $16.7 million. He also left with stock
| options worth a quarter of a billion dollars and a pension that
| shareholders were told was worth more than $9 million a year.'
| This did not include the perks that were paid by GE, including a
| Boing 737 for his personal use (page 61).
| I guess that GE was doing fine for some.
See "America: What Went Wrong?" by James B Steele, Donald L. Barlett
Reader's quote ===>> "America: What Went Wrong" is just as important and
relevant today as it was when initially released. America's overall economic
situation is much worse today than it was when this book was initially
published. This book accurately forecasts the problems America has as it
loses its manufacturing base and became a service-oriented society (Wal-Mart
supposedly has 700 Chinese factories of its own). Now the multi-national's
factories are fleeing Mexico in 2002 for the slave-like workers of China.
Unsettling for sure, I challenge you to read this book and don't be
surprised if you re-read parts of it as the late 1990s Clinton/Greenspan
artificial economic bubble unwinds into a 1930s style worldwide economic
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