I am looking at my options for cutting the cable (Actually satellite)
My main concern is what to use for a DVR for broadcast signals.
Can I buy an old Tivo for this. Is the guide still being supported?
They still provide guide data for old models, but (IMHO) this only makes
sense if you can find a TiVo unit in good condition that already has
lifetime service. Otherwise, the money for TiVo's exorbitant service
fees would better go toward a small computer with an internal tuner card
or an external tuning adapter such as those from Hauppauge and
On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 19:25:53 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
Surprisingly a search for OTA DVR brings up a few from such time
honored brands like Magnavox and Channel Master. Might even be a
Winegard or Dumont.
Older Tivo units may not have digital tuners, let alone HD.
On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 19:52:11 -0800, cable firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I did look and did not have that much success. Digital is a must but
HD, maybe not so much.
I may have a tuner card around here somewhere from AverMedia and I
have the AverMedia capture card in a PC as we speak. I was really
looking for a turn key solution if I could find one.
For refurbished TiVo units, icluding some with lifetime service, try
The Series 3 and later are HD.
For recording TV in usable format I use a Ross Freesat box, has all the
Freeview channels and more. Only downside for me is I can't get the Irish
SaorvIew channels on it.
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 7:26:13 PM UTC-5, email@example.com wrote:
buy a used tivo with lifetime service, its affordable, and works awesome.
some dvrs like the dish pal one and perhaps the maganavox used guide data the local stations no longer provide
some tivos hsupport on line streaming of shows.
On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 7:57:58 AM UTC-5, bob haller wrote:
I've had Tivo since the original first came out. I have the Tivo
Premier now, which is about 5 years old. I've been very happy with
them and highly recommend them.
I'm not up on their latest eqpt or price plans though. When I bought
both of mine, the option for service, which is basically the guide info
was either a monthly charge or a one time payment of about $300 for
lifetime service. I got the lifetime, which goes for the lifetime of
the unit. So, if you buy a used one with lifetime, it transfers to the
new owner. The Premier and I assume all the new ones use a cable card
instead of a cable box. That's a plus, because the monthly charge from
my cable company for the cablecard is $3 less than it would be for a
cable box. Also, the cable company would be charging me $10 extra a
month for their DVR. Bottom line, if you wind up paying ~$600 for a
new Tivo with lifetime, I'm even in about 4 years, ahead after that.
They have been very reliable. And the Tivo guide, season pass options,
wishlist searches, are way better than what the cable company here offers.
I can put in a search for an actor or keyword like "snowboarding" and it
will auto record anything as it comes up. I don't know how many tuners
the new ones have, my Premier will record two shows and you could be
watching a third that has been recorded.
IDK how much storage you're looking for, but if you buy a used one,
there are DIY guides on the internet about how to upgrade it to a
much larger drive. I've been thinking about doing that with mine.
It currently has, I think a 300GB drive. I can buy a 2TB drive for
example, and put that in there. It's a bit involved, you have to
download some Linux boot CD, then use a PC to copy the drive that's
in there, put that image onto the new drive, etc.
Any questions, let me know.
TiVo's current service prices are $15 per month or $150 per year or $600
for "All-In" (lifetime) service. The first year is free with the
purchase of a new TiVo. The 500GB Bolt currently goes for $300 (with one
year of service) from TiVo. A little bit cheaper at Amazon etc.
Dunno from TIVO, but I use something called SageTV which runs on my 27-7
PC. Strictly OTA - we do not have cable or dish.
Since Google bought it out and killed off the company, Sage has gone
Open Source, but I am not sure about freebie EPG availability on the
Open Source version.
OTOH, if you buy a "Used" licence for SageTV v7.something, you get free
EPG service basically forever or until somebody changes their mind.
There is a marketplace for that stuff at
Advantages I Perceive in SageTV:
- Your Choice of Tuners: I have six tuners from SiliconDust
and they live in my garden shed and connect to my LAN instead of
hogging space in my PC. Sometimes you will want to record two or
more shows that air at the same time. Multiple tuners allow this.
Plus, I can connect to them from my phone or tablet and use those
devices to watch live TV
- Your Choice of Storage: Need more? Add drives to your PC or get
a NAS box. Very small requirements? Maybe your PC already has
- Remote Boxes: You can buy something called an "HD200" or "HD300".
This is a little black box that pulls 2.5-5 watts max, has no moving
parts, and is totally silent. You put it under your TV, connect
via an HDMI cable, and now the TV has full access to SageTV running
on your PC. Multiple TVs ? Multiple boxes. Also available
in aforementioned market place.
- LAN Access: If you share the drive(s) used by SageTV on your PC,
you can connect to them from your phone or tablet and watch stuff
that Sage has recorded. You can't get to the Sage UI, but
the files are there, ready to view.
- Anywhere Access: I don't use it, but Sage includes a separate
application called "PlaceShifter". You install PlaceShifter
on your laptop or somebody else's PC and it can hook into
your instance of SageTV from anyplace in the world. It even
adjusts the resolution to accommodate different bandwidths.
Downside I Perceive in SageTV:
- The downside that I see in SageTV is care and feeding. It is
an enthusiast's product and not a toaster-like appliance.
OTOH, the UI and setup on the one TIVO that I tried was just
sooooo elegant and simple.
OTOOH, I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree and I have been dealing
successfully with SageTV for 5+ years.
Hasn't gone away yet Sage-wise.
And, if it does go away, EPG is available to Sage from multiple vendors
and I would hope that the price would be substantially lower than what
I just posted a question about this it the SageTV forum
(http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?pX5727#post585727 ) and
maybe we will get a reply soon.
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