I am in the US Army stationed in Korea. I have a House in Virginia that
I am renting out. The AC compressor went out. And I am being quoted
1600 dollars to replace the compressor. I purchased the house in 1993,
and replaced the compressor in 94 or 95. The AC Unit is probably 20 or
more years old. I am trying to decide whether to repair the unit at
1600 or to install a brand new model with better efficiency. In another
year and a half, I will be moving back into the home and will live
there indefinitely. I would like to replace the unit in the off season
and is there a month that would be best for me to replace it? Please
provide me with some recommendations, specific name brand and model
numbers with pricing if known. Also, should I get a manual J done?
Thanks for any help
From the money point of view, if you were going to keep it a rental, I would
say repair it.
But since you are going to live there, get a new AC and get the most
efficient you can swing. You will be glad you did when the electric bills
show up. And get several estimates if possible.
Hope they send you all to Iraq u baby killing sons of bitches and whores.
May americas war crimes be repaid by its citizens a million-fold.
Thank you for killing innocents on behalf of oil companies and republican
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Hi, we are in N.C., and replaced our whole unit a couple years ago. Can't
recall if it's been two summers now or three, but we noticed a huge savings
on our electric bill the first summer. The new unit saved us at the very
least 1/3 off our summer cooling bills per month, most times closer to 1/2.
My husband said this new unit will have paid for itself in less than 5 years
time, in the savings off our cooling bills. With the old unit, some of
electric bills in the summer time were approaching $400, after the new unit,
we never had a bill that even neared the $300 mark, and I'm talking hot and
humid summer. If you'd like, I can ask my husband the name of the unit we
had installed? I know it was an off-brand model of a name brand. The guy
we had install it said 'it was made by the same company, same unit, etc. but
less expensive than the name brand.
Hope this helps.
You have some good points, but i want to clarify a few things:
Brand name does not really matter. 90% of the job is who and how they
install it. You can get a top-of-the-line unit and have it installed by some
fly-by-night "hack" and then you end up with nothing but trouble. A/Cs and
heatpumps have improved (efficiency-wise) quite a bit in the past 20 years.
What was considered "high efficiency" back in 1988 is now considered the
least efficient and will soon not be available due to new government
standards. You have to remember though: Just changing the outdoor unit can
help, but you are not going to get very good efficiency using the old
evaporator coil. You may even DEcrease the SEER rating. In other words, if
you install a 13 SEER outdoor unit (which will be the minimum requirement at
the end of this year. You don't HAVE to have one, it's just that
manufacturers will not make them any longer) and you keep the old evaporator
coil, you may get an actual 11 SEER rating or possibly lower.
In any case, get a least 3 quotes (not estimates) from companies that your
friends and neighbors know. See who they have used and who they are happy
with and you can't go wrong.....
Do yourself a favor: Replace the entire system. Outdoor unit, lineset,
eveaporator coil, the works. You'll save money in the long run and have less
problems down the road..
I'm not convinced that replacing everything is necessarily the best
way to go. Of course you want it installed right. But the rest is
economics. It might be MUCH cheaper to simply replace the compressor
unit -- so much so that the additional electricity saving from going
all the way won't justify the additional cost.
In my experience, the greatest savings (assuming a working unit of
reasonable efficiency) come from making sure the ductwork is in good
condition so you don't leak half of your cooled air.
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Again, it depends. If you use A/C a couple months out of the year, then you
could get by with just replacing the outdoor unit. If you can see what a 20
year old coil looks like, you can see some of the "physical" differences of
the improvements made to the new, high efficiency ones. One thing is the
size. More efficient ones have more surface area. An old 3 ton coil may be
12 inches high wher a newer one can be 20-some inches high. Another thing is
the metering device. Old ones used pistons where newer ones have expansion
valves. Not ALL new coils, but most. And, depending on the size, installer,
how much of a pain it is to change, sheet metal involved, adding a new
evaporator coil and new line set can be as low as an additional $500. Sure,
that's not pocket change, but if changing out the entire system can save you
50 bucks a month on your electric bill, it may pay to do it. Especially if
your cooling season is 5 or 6 months long. If you have a heat pump, forget
it. You'd be crazy just to change the outdoor unit......
First...thanks for what you are doing..even if it allows some fuckers like
that one that posted later to still breathe...
1600 for a compressor change out, depending on the size and brand of the
condensor, is not as high as it sounds...however, if its 3 ton or less, then
it can be quite high for this area..VA, NC, SC..just depends on how much the
compressor costs and the brand name on the unit...
I have been able may times to change out an entire unit for less than that,
and still make a profit, so, you might want to shop around...and if you do,
remember, name brands on the units today mean nothing, unless of course its
a Goodman..Goodman is STILL the cheapest POS on the market...and while it
will do the job, why install something that is prone to failure more often
than others, when you can get a better brand for less, or the same price and
have fewer issues with it.
Another thing: You change a compressor only, you get 1 year warranty. If you
change the entire unit, you (sometimes) get 10 years. Depends on the
manufacturer. Some will not give the 10 years unless you change the
evaporator coil too.
14 SEER and higher Affinitys, with a matching coil, gets a lifetime on the
compressor....good thing about that is, with the new ACC team covers (NOT
winter covers...unit grilles actually..you know the colored ones? Well, now
you can get Duke, UNC...Florida..etc...with the team logo on it) if the
grilles rust out, you can replace em with about anything you want..
Goodman stopped after their buyout with the new owners. The lifetime
warranty isnt automatic now, and they are hardcore on the "if you bought it,
not licenced, or in the trade and can prove it, or bought it over the
internet" there isnt a bit of warranty on the unit.
Have to go back and look, but its gone bro.
Duke and UNC???!!! They're for PUSSIES!!!!!
BTW, been down your way quite a bit in the past 3 weeks. My son has been in
the NCAA playoffs (soccer). Most of them have been in Raleigh. (The ACC
playoffs were in Carey). They are in the "sweet 16". Play Notre Dame (at
Clemson) this Sunday. Then the final 4 (and finals) are going to be in
Carey. Putting some miles on the vehicle!!! 5 trips in 2 weeks! Nothing like
driving a 10 hour round trip for a 2 hour game. Clemson is a 17 hour round
trip!!! Oh, well. They are only young once.
Give me 3 years. I'll be down there somewhere in the Carolinas...........
Well, yea..I agree...ive always been an NCSU fan...even when they suck..
You have been out Pauls way...should have given him a call and met up with
him...found out hes not the total ass he wants you think he is..LOL
If you are out this way again, let me know..lunch is on me.
And yea...I know about the being young once thing. I have a friend thats not
only talked me into joining as a PT officier here with the local SD, but he
also coaches an elementary soccer team...(ok..its not even close to NCAA
stuff) but we sponsored them this year..and they won their divisions
championship last week. Its nice to see the kids out there and know that by
buying the uniforms, shoes, etc...that they are doing something they wont
prob ever forget..
Played them two days ago! Beat them 3-0 and my boy scored the third goal.
Hey! NCS beat them during the reg season. One comment: They must not give
much money to the soccer team. That field was pitiful! No lights,
pot-a-potties, crappy field. We thought it was a alternate field because of
the rain, but someone said that was their regular field! Oh, well. We didn't
want to walk around the field (through the mud) to go to the "visitor's
side" so we sat with all of the NCSU fans. Nice people! Most of the time you
still get PPS (pissed parent syndrom) when their kid is losing and you are
cheering for the opposing team. Got none of that. We got lost getting to the
field and ended up at the baseball stadium. Now THAT is nice.
I forget exactly where you are.
I have no beef with Paul. Don't know him personally, but I know what kind of
guy he really is.
We were going to go down to Clemson tomorrow, but we are going to wait until
Saturday morning. Then, hopefully, we will be in Carey/Raleigh the 9th,
10th, and 11th.
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