On Mar 18, 7:53 am, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
OOPPS!!! misread the post.
And no, the reason for RFB is because it is the most reasonable way to
do it. All the hot air spent trying to defend LFB hasn't accomplished
even a small dent in the reasons _NOT_ to do it.
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:44:06 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
My 1940's Chevys had 4 pedals, but none were the emergency brake.
And VW had a "clutchless" stick shift. I think it had a centrifical
clutch that did not require a pedal. It disengaged when you took your
foot off the gas.
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:27:48 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Nope. No centrigical clutch. A vacuum operated clutch, with the
vacuum controlled by a solenoid valve operated by touching the
gearshift lever. It also had a torque converter, like an automatic,
that allowed the engine to idle in gear, and even pull away
(sluggishly) in second gear.
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:28:37 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
I said you were talking about a different system. SAXOMAT was NEVER
installed on a VW destined for North America. PERIOD.
So YOU are 100% wrong.
Every "semi-automatic" VW in North America was an "auto-stick" which
used a solenoid controlled vacuum operated clutch and a fluid torque
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:07:03 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You must be talking about a different system. I'm talking the
Officially called the Volkswagen Automatic Stickshift, this
transmission was a three speed manual transmission connected to a
vacuum-operated automatic clutch. When the driver put their hand on
the gearshift the clutch would disengage by a 12volt solenoid
operating the vacuum clutch, allowing shifting between gears, once
they removed their hand the clutch would re-engage automatically. The
transmission was also equipped with a torque converter, allowing the
car to idle in gear, like an automatic. This transmission was first
available on the 1968 Volkswagen Beetle, and was made available on the
Karmann Ghia in 1969. VW dropped the transmission option altogether in
I've both driven and worked on them.
Along the same lines, the Smart (at least the Europe versions) have a manual
transmission that shifts itself like an automatic. You let your foot off
the gas and it disengages the clutch and sifts. The shifting is slow
though, and took some getting used to the power lag. I was driving a
ForFour and got 42 mpg over 1200 miles
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:17:37 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
Except the Saxomat was never sold on a VW in North America.
As far as I know it was not sold in ANYTHING in North America
We didn't get Borgward, Goliath, Trabant, DKW, GLAS, NSU, and Wartburg
over here, and no '61-66 1800 Fiats or Saab 93s with "automatic"
The true Saxomat did have an centrifical clutch.
The VW Autostick as sold in North America between roughly 1965 and
1968 did NOT.
On Mar 18, 1:44 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
If you count _all_ the foot operated controls, some had 5, or even 6
if there was a foot operated emergency. dimmer, starter, clutch,
brake, gas. Of course the dimmer and starter weren't "pedals". There
were even a few that had a foot operated radio tuner....oops, I forgot
the 'stomp on this to spray windshield thingy' Geez, It didn't seem
so crowde when I was driving them :)
Curious, About what year did the starter become fairly standard on the
Same for about when the dimmer moved to the column.
With all the old cars I drove back then I can't recall if my 38 chev
had starter on key but I am sure it still had the dimmer on floor.
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