Hey, I had the same thing going on with me this morning. Why am I so sore?
Then I remembered that I helped my neighbor tear a ride on mower apart.
He got it for free, and it has parts that match one of his other ride on
mowers. So, off comes the deck, out comes the engine, then the sun set and
it started to get cold. Homie don't like the cold when it is not sunny out.
I don't, either. :-)
I remember running fence and when I got to the Casino's break room for lunch the
cocktail waitresses would just stare at me. I would look down and see all of this
blood running down my arms from the barbed wire. Oh, I guess I need to wash up
before I go to the buffet...
My fav was while trying to tighten the set-screw for the pilot bit of a hole-saw.
I could have swore I put the drill motor in neutral...oops, where did my fingernail
go? Whatever, a few wraps of electrical tape later...LOL!
I have been nicked so many times and wondered WT? When did that happen?
Of course, one could reference the movie Predator.
"I don't have time to bleed."
I remember reading about hockey players getting all busted up and not
noticing it until the game was over. I always laugh at group pictures
of a hockey team because they are all smiling and most of them have
teeth missing. I can't remember how many times I've been shocked working
on electrical or electronic gear. I had one RF burn that was a
bit rough but I never got shocked when working on high voltage power
because if you don't concentrate and pay attention when working around
4,160vac power, you may not live very long. When I work on electrical
stuff around the house, businesses or industry, I work on it like it was
hot because I often do and because it's a good habit. ^_^
Me and my late friend GB often repaired HVAC systems for people with
little money and didn't charge them a lot and when we did it for an old
fellow who lived a few blocks from GB, the old man's family called us to
repair their equipment and paid us full price because they appreciated
the way we helped their family member who had a limited income. ^_^
I spent most of May in the hospital and my first visitor was the
minister from a small Baptist church my friend LM attends. I don't
share their faith but I donated time and material to help LM repair
the church's AC units that metal thieves had damaged. I did it because
they're good, nice people and they help a lot of folks too. I've done a
lot of work for small churches even though I don't practice their faith.
The mega-churches can kiss my ass because the people running those
places are often arrogant, judgmental jerks. ^_^
I've done a lot of mess cleanups like the time an area manager for a
supermarket that he decided to have someone else install a backup
generator for his store. He told me that the other contractor had given
him a much lower price to install the used generator. I later got a call
from the manager asking me if I would get his new generator running. I
asked why he was calling me? I thought someone else had installed the
genset? The guy who installed it told the manager that he just installed
them, he didn't fix them. My price had included repairing any problem
with the used equipment. I charged the same amount of money to repair
the installation that I would have charged to start with. ^_^
On 12/13/2013 03:07 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
Good grief, Malformed!
I recently had new furnace and central air units installed.
The dealer did an excellent job installing both.
Based on past and present work performed, I would recommend this dealer to my closest friends.
I assume that this dealer gets an end-of-year sales rebate from the factory.
I don't feel entitled to any portion of that dealer's rebate.
On Friday, December 13, 2013 3:22:05 PM UTC-5, Roy Biggins wrote:
The above doesn't sound anything like the situation that occurred. A
problem is that a lot of info is lacking. But clearly this isn't a
volume rebate that some reseller gets. Without any more info, I would
suspect that the client agreed to pay for the cost of the appliance that
the OP obtained at a local store plus the cost to install it. If that
appliance had a rebate, then I would think in most cases, the client is
entitled to it. But we don't know for sure, because we don't know what
the actual contract that was made was.
I recently bought paint at HD that had a $40 rebate. That rebate was
available to anyone. If I had a contract with a painter to pay $1000
for his services, I pay for the paint, he picks it up at HD, then clearly
that rebate would be mine. It's also not a good idea to pull this with
a customer, because it's usually easy to find out what rebates there are
online and then you have a problem.
> My client asked me to pick-out, purchase and install an appliance for
The pivotal point here is:
It turned out that the appliance that I picked had a rebate coupon.
A skeptical person would suspect that the reason you picked THAT
appliance was because of the rebate offer. They'd believe you saw the
opportunity to benefit yourself from the rebate, and so it was the
rebate that steered your decision making.
I don't think that can work because both your client and the appliance
manufacturer are going to want the ORIGINAL of the sales receipt. It's
really the owner of the appliance that should photocopy both the
original of the sales receipt and the rebate form and keep both together
in case he has to make a warranty claim.
I feel that you were acting as your client's _agent_ by picking out an
appliance for his use. As such, you should have had your client's
interests foremost in mind when making your purchase decision. If you
feel that your client would have also made the same purchase because of
the rebate, then the ethical thing to do would be to refund the rebate
to your client. To act in his best interest is to act as he would have
under the same circumstances. And, he entrusted you to make the best
purchase decision you could ON HIS BEHALF. But, in all fairness, you
should mention that it took a little time to fill in the coupon, address
the envelope and mail it, and let your client decide how much is a fair
reimbursement for your time and effort in that regard.
As soon as you realized there was a rebate to be had, you put yourself
in a conflict of interest situation. You either act in your clients
best interest, or you act in your own best interest. He trusted you to
act in his best interest. If you feel you were acting in your clients
best interest because he would have made the same purchase entirely
because of that rebate, then you are correct and you did act in his best
interest. But, that means the rebate is HIS money. If you now keep a
substantial portion of the rebate for yourself, then it can't be said
that you were truly acting in his best interest. In that case, it's
hard for us not to believe your game plan was for your client to get the
stove and for you to get the rebate.
Give the rebate money to your client and get a tip and some word of
mouth advertising out of the deal. If your client finds out there was a
rebate paid on that purchase and he never saw a penny of it, he'll
believed you betrayed him. He'll believe he could have had a stove more
suitable to his needs were it not for your betrayal. So, he'll badmouth
you for the rest of his life. If he relates the story exactly as you
related it to us, his audience will agree that ethically, you have an
obligation to return the rebate to him because you were acting on his
behalf in making the decision to purchase the stove which offered the
rebate. You can't say you were truly doing that if you give him the
stove, but keep the rebate for yourself since the rebate was the reason
for purchasing THAT stove.
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:55:09 PM UTC-8, email@example.com wrote:
I have decided to give my client the entire rebate minus one dollar for my
trouble and expense since, as someone here mentioned, I was acting as an ag
ent of my client even though the rebate had nothing to do with my decision
to purchase the appliance since I didn’t even know there was a rebate unt
il I made my decision to buy that particular model which had the rebate or
for that matter if or when I would even get the rebate. Most of my clients
are very nice people for whom I would gladly do the same. In the future how
ever, since I do also have some clients that I don’t particularly like, a
nd under the same circumstances for those particular clients I would probab
ly not even bother filling out the rebate coupon or mailing it in since I k
now I wouldn’t be getting any money for it.
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 20:39:37 -0800 (PST), firstname.lastname@example.org
I think you are doing *almost* the right thing. You should give him
the whole rebate, don't hold out that $1. It's such a small amount
it's meaningless as far as money but think of the impression it leaves
to people (and your customer) who hear about that measly $1 - It makes
you sound like a real chiseler even though you are giving the other
$29 dollars away. If he tells the story to his friends what will they
remember, that you gave him the $29 or that you kept the lousy $1 ? If
you give back the whole $30 you come off like a 100% upstanding guy,
if you keep the $1 you just come off as cheap, no one will remember
Old car salesman adage: "I'd rather sell one guy five cars than five
guys one car."
Building good will brings in long term business and creates positive
word of mouth. I have bought three used vehicles from the same
salesman and referred two more people to him who have bought their
vehicles from him too.
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