I have 2 lights in the same room connected to one light switch. I replaced both of them with new light fixtures, however when I put the fuse back in the lights come on but the light switch won't turn them off.
Both ceiling boxes have a black, white, and red wire coming out of them.
Both light fixtures have a black & white wire as well as the ground wire.
Ignore this idiot's response. It it had a brain, it wouldn't know what to do with it. I thinnk it fell on its head when it was born. Its only value is in entertainment purposes when it posts.
although i think we have different opinions about how hard it is to safely do any home wiring, im certainly not arguing the fact that electricity can be dangerous.
i thought just for kicks i would find out how many people died from electrocution. these were the only statistics i could find:
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Estimated risk for an American over a 50-year period. Risk of death from botulism 1 in 2,000,000 Risk of death from fireworks 1 in 1,000,000 Risk of death from tornados 1 in 50,000 Risk of death from airplane crash 1 in 20,000 Risk of death from asteroid impact 1 in 20,000 Risk of death from electrocution 1 in 5,000 Risk of death from firearms accident 1 in 2,000 Risk of death from homicide 1 in 300 Risk of death from automobile accident 1 in 100
its kind of a scary thought that for every 4 people that get electrocuted, one gets killed by an asteroid!!
im not saying these figures mean too horribly much to the homeowner doing some repair, or much of anything really. just thought it was interesting about the asteroids.
No one has ever died from an asteroid; so your statistics are rather odd. Last year a meteor (not an asteroid) hit a house, and that was sufficient bizarre as to make the world news; it happens about once a decade. Are you saying that there is 1 chance in 100,000,000 each year that an asteroid will hit, but when it does it will kill everyone; so that comes out to 1:20,000; or something like that?
And the electrocution statistics are equally meaningless. Nearly all electrocutions are from 4kv or above lines. Since few homeowners work on
4kv lines, their chances of electrocution are at least one hundred times lower. (I also doubt there are that many electrocutions anyhow, but that is another subject.)
Interesting to see a steady decline in onsumer electrocutions. Since the population is increasing, as is the number of electrical gadgets and appliances in daily use, I'm hazarding a guess that the decline is related to the steady growth of GFCI protected circuits.
Or, maybe it's just Darwinism at work and enough careless people get electrocuted before they reach breeding age to improve the breed's average smarts with respect to how to handle electical equipment.
My guess is that you connected the black wire from the fixtures to the black wires in the ceiling boxes. The red wires in the ceiling boxes are probably the switch leg and should be connected to the black wire of each fixture.
You may be able to confirm this by opening up the switch and take note of the color of the wires on it. If you see a red and a black on the switch, connect the fixtures to the red and white in each ceiling box.
I'm glad you have no problem giving advice to people who don't have a single solitary clue as to what they're doing. Maybe you'll help one of these wreckless lazy slobs electrocute themselves one of these days, or start a good fire. Keep up the good work.
If you check back, you will see I have often suggested to someone that they should not try a project and to get local help, generally professional. However I try to do so in a respectful manor. Try it someday.
Tom Pendergast, YOU ARE WRECKLESS!!! (just following your advice) You've been TOLD many times to stop giving dangerous, misleading, and inaccurate electrical advice, "I-zheet M'drurz", yet you WRECKLESSLY persist. But then, it's easy to understand how a self appointed armchair lesstrician like you would think that a guy is wreckless just because he slipped up and wired the lights to the hot feed (probably the black) instead of the switch leg (probably the red).
That's the kind of attitude that will get ya killed or seriously injured. In the USA, more people are killed by 120 volts than the combined deaths from ALL the other voltages. _Best_ treat that 120 volts with some respect.
"Slipped up"?? Look, horse's ass, *I* knew from the minute I read the post that that's what he did. *you* knew it, and *anybody* with a friggin' CLUE as to how residential wiring is configured these dats KNEW what the answer is.
You roaring, flaming HYPOCRITE. I'm telling this CLUELESS slob that he's too lazy and/or stupid to find out what he's doing before he starts opening up fixtures and swapping wires around. I reapeat: you moron HYPOCRITE.
Put up or shut up time, big mouth jerk:
Name me three instances where I have given " dangerous, misleading, and inaccurate electrical advice,"
Come on, big mouth asshole - NAME THEM. Or shut your fat pig loser mouth.
this is kind of like the 'most accidents happen at home' statistic. you spend most of your time there so of course you have more accidents at home. if you could somehow factor out time, im sure 120 is much safer than higher voltages.
which still doesnt mean you shouldnt take percautions.
So why didn't you just tell the guy what he did wrong? Was it necessary to call the guy an idiot right out of the box? A simple, "call an electrician" would have been considered an inappropriately civil response? Or was it just that an ignorant loser like you found pleasure in insulting the guy? Go "shit-yer-drawers" somewhere else ya friggin' wanker.
Here are just a *FEW* of the posts that you have made in the past that demonstrate your dangerous electrical "advice", ya hackmeister, Tom Pendergast, aka "I-zheet M'drurz", more accurately referred to as I-Shit-fer-Brains:
Message-ID: Message-ID: snipped-for-privacy@mindspring.com Message-ID: 8s0Ia.126369$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.tampabay.rr.com Message-ID: iGBGa.71869$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.tampabay.rr.com And the thread(s) that started our "feud": Message-ID: 20bGa.39399$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.tampabay.rr.com Message-ID: Ke8Ga.77461$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.tampabay.rr.com Message-ID: J1iVa.23914$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.tampabay.rr.com
...........and, of course, SAP Guru's favorite Tom Pendergast post:
From: Tom Pendergast Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.nascar Subject: Re: Killfile....how many are in yours Date: 31 Dec 2002 05:34:34 GMT Organization: Noneayoubizness Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: du201p169.icubed.com (204.215.201.169) User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
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