1920's wiring....

[David Nebenzahl]

On 10/27/2009 11:38 AM Existential Angst spake thus:

I claim sig material! (I'll try it out for a while to see if I like it.)

[RBM]

In "your" neck of the woods, in NY, you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a copper service entrance cable, conductors in conduit, yes, but cable no, not in the last thirty some odd years, and a ConEd service drop is aluminum, except for a steel strand in the bare messenger.

[Existential Angst]

Well, as you will. fyi, I will be running for office under the Indpendent Party of the Proctologically Violated (M)asses, so I could use a, uh, plug in yer sig.

As for experience, I am a founding member of ICNAL, the International Consortium for the Neutering of All Lawyers, and President of the American chapter, ANAL, Americans for the Neutering of All Lawyers.

I hope I have your support.

[David Nebenzahl]

On 10/27/2009 2:45 PM Existential Angst spake thus:

Why? None of those are proper nouns. That's what I call "AOL-speak".

(I was a copy editor in another lifetime.)

[Steve Barker]

Why? I thought the lead free scam was only on plumbing.

[Stormin Mormon]

Mercury makes mad hatters. Maybe lead solder makes buttcrack plumbers?

[Stormin Mormon]

Are you contributing to the moral decay of Usenet?

[Ralph Mowery]

Many European countries have gone to lead free solder in their electronics. Give the electronics a few years and they grow what is called tin whiskers. This shorts out the circuits. You have to use the lead free solder to do a good repair on them.

[clare]

Which is required in order to give the cable enough tensile strength to self support.

[clare]

Nope - it's invaded electronics too - Most computers, TVs etc in the last 5 years are lead free - and a royal P.I.T.A. to repair because of it

[clare]

The question is, is there such a thing as a "good repair" on them, using lead free solder??? In my experience, no. Using leaded solder to "patch" them is easier than using lead-free - and likely to last longer than a lead-free "repair"

[Existential Angst]

It's funny, we started with copper, went to tinned copper, went back to copper, slid further back to effing aluminum (goodgawd), learned from that mistake and went back to copper again. Altho power companies use aluminum in parts of their service -- and steel!

Also, there are different grades of copper, wire supposedly being "electrical grade", which is among the higher grades, iiuc. Electrical grade copper commands a substantially higher scrap value than copper pipe, altho I don't know how a dealer would tell, if it were copper bar.

I wouldn't be surprised if wire is now a crappy grade of copper. Proly could tell by comparing the resistance of an old 500 ft spool to a new one -- if one could find an old spool.

[Steve Barker]

who repairs electronics? LOL!

[The Daring Dufas]

I'm glad I have my roll of Kestor five core solder. That particular roll I bought back in the 70's and it always works on anything electronic.

TDD

[Existential Angst]

Which will soon join Latin.

Well, I don't hate them either. After all, I don't advocate killing them all, just neutering them. Whether they are issued anaesthesia would be an individual state's decision.

In fact, my various organizations are looking for a good lawyer -- neutered or un-neutered.

Hate toward lawyers is not reflexive, btw. It's generally a steady measured acquisition.

[David Nebenzahl]

On 10/27/2009 5:44 PM Stormin Mormon spake thus:

Well, Jay-sus, I hope so!

[David Nebenzahl]

On 10/27/2009 3:28 PM Existential Angst spake thus:

It's called standard English.

Sorry, no can do. Unlike most of the great ignorant Unwashed Masses(R)(TM), I don't reflexively hate lawyers.

To paraphrase what they useta say when I was a younger pup: In legal trouble? Call a hippie.

[Stormin Mormon]

A pediatrician I know (doctor for children) tells me that lead poisoning in kids is still a very real problem. Lead free paint and plumbing is a very real advantage.

I figure that circuit boards are not likely to be eaten, or much exposure to people. As such, that's plenty safe for my life.

[Stormin Mormon]

Go with Satan, my son from the dark side.

[gfretwell]

I gave you the answer. The aerial drop triplex is alloy 1350 aluminum ... all 3 wires, along with virtually all aerial cable. That is what the alloy was designed for. It is also used in some aircraft construction.