10 cheapest BEST cities to live.... and to run a mfr'g bidniss??

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http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10-best-places-to-live-cheaply-forbes.aspx?cp-documentidh55877&GT13026
The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.
Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the geography, but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure. But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise -- altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".
I thought Tennessee might be in there (TVA), and KY, but apparently lots of retirees are flocking there, running up prices. And with smaller mosquitoes than in Florida....
Note the relatively high crime rate in Fairbanks, about 6x Elkhart, Ind. Most in the middle.
And the other Q is, Are these place also good for a bidniss?? Food fer thought.
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of A will never be the same.
Pitty.
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Allen Drake wrote:

That's what you get for electing a borderline mentally handicapped person (George Bush) for your president. Twice no less.
When you go off invading countries countries in the middle east and call it a "war" and spend trillions of dollars on foolhardy escapades like that, you get a country in pitty-full shape.
Bush's strategery worked out real well, as did Rumsfeld's known unknowns and Cheney's secret energy meetings.
How did Bush's push for increased home-ownership rates pan out?
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Home Guy wrote:

You need to get out of the house and into some fresh air, with more oxygen.
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Home Guy wrote:

Bush never pushed for greater home ownership rates. You're thinking of the Community Reinvestment Act, originally passed under the Carter administration and greatly expanded in 1995 under Clinton.
This act, and its implementation, was the single greatest cause of the housing crisis.
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HeyBub wrote:

Why do you lie?
===========Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2004-01-20-fha_x.htm
Posted 1/20/2004 1:31 AM Bush seeks to increase minority homeownership By Thomas A. Fogarty, USA TODAY
In a bid to boost minority homeownership, President Bush will ask Congress for authority to eliminate the down-payment requirement for Federal Housing Administration loans. =========== YouTube - Home Ownership and President Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8

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Home Guy wrote:

See also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wASFRavojBY

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Totally wrong. The act and its implementation was that people who would normally qualify for mortgages could not be denied a mortgage just because they lived in a redlined area, being an area that a lender had arbitrarily decided that they would automatically refuse. lenders still had to verify that the loan where economically valid.
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Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of places outside of the US that aregood places to live? Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every corner. The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world. Half your population dont vote and you get the politicians you deserve as a result. Go to the polls and turf them out if you don't like them. Don't waste bandwidth whining about it on a newsgroup dedicated to metalworking,
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You will never learn of nice places around the world. The USA is all about hate and lies that will always make it seem like the world revolves around America and every place else is meaningless. Americans are the greatest race of people on the planet. The right is in the process of saving the universe from the left wing socialist commie pot smoking baby killing Godless outcasts and Bush was the greatest leader the world has ever known. I wonder who can ever fill his shoes. Maybe Cain or Perry or Romney or Palin or any of the rest of those clueless wing nuts can manage to funnel the rest of the money to the top 2%.
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"the US is all about hate and lies",yet we are the ones who are FIRST with aid and assistance when disasters strike,who ensured Europe's freedom for more than 60 years,we promote human rights worldwide,plus America has made life better for many people around the world through medical advances,weather and tsunami warnings,higher food production techniques,etc.
You simply are clueless,or brainwashed by the "progressives" "education"/indoctrination system.Or both.
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Jim Yanik wrote:

Only if there's crude oil at stake somewhere nearby

Only to keep europe out of the orbit of the soviet union.

Tell that to Africa.
And why does China have most-favored-nation status when it comes to trade with the US? Why do you look the other way when it comes to human rights when dealing with china?

Yes. Monsanto and ADM just love to sell poor coutries high-yield genetically modified plants, and the specially patented insecticides and herbicides to go along with them.

You're the one that's been effectively brainwashed.
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Allen Drake wrote:

Do you do any metalworking, or do you just whine al the time? All I've seen is that you have a bad case of PMS.
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:33:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"

Capitulation accepted.
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Allen Drake wrote:

Congratulations! Your DIY lobotomy with a rusty pocket knife was 100% a success.
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:40:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"

Grow a brain winger.
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Allen Drake wrote:

Yawn. Practice what you preach.
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:59:40 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"

Post back when you have a clue.
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Allen Drake wrote:

About what? Do you have a drill press, lathe or milling machine? I doubt that you have anything other than your pink toolkit, with soft handles that was made for women.
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:39:23 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"

I have been a machinist for over 40 years and am still going strong. My post was all about the loss of many of those jobs due to the total failures of the previous administration. So far the only responses I have seen are diversions and denial but facts are facts no matter what happened in the past. The republican administration left this country in the biggest mess since the great depression. No matter how much Clinton lied or anything done by him or anyone the facts will never change.
It must suck to be a rightWingNut still defending Bush.
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