Newbie Question - How to start growing roses?

Hello Everyone,
I live in the North Eastern Part of Pa. I have NO Roses, but thought it would be cool to turn a bland area of my yard into a rose area. I like roses, just have never grown them, and not really sure where to start. I've done a few searches, and only found 'tips' not really a newbie guide.
little help?
Thank you,
tom
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There's a lot to it - look for a local adult education type class or join a garden club. When you buy a rose bush it usually comes with directions on how to plant it. ie how deep to dig hole, mounding dirt in bottom and spreading roots out, how deep the plant should go, etc But what to trim, how to cut, what fertilizers to use when - all more critical with roses than with most plants.
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I like roses too, especially the ones that come from the flower shop. I've learned that roses can be a high maintenance plant after planting a bush in my backyard garden. It does OK sitting there with the other plants but isn't nearly what I expected. You have to really coax and baby them to get flower shop quality blooms. I prefer plants and flowers to just need a little water, sunlight and some occasional fertilizer. There are many out there that are very pretty and don't require as much attention. If roses are really your thing then I say, "Good luck". If you're just looking for some pretty flowers to grow you might want to think about it again.

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wrote:

I told my Wifey about my intentions. She laughed, and walked off.
Not feeling the love. ;)
I've been looking at varities, and the number are overwelming. Stilll looking, and to add to the problems, I live in a Japanese Beetle hot spot.
later,
tom @ www.FindMeShelter.com

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Any chance you have a wife (also) that loves your projects only when they're completed? ;-)
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On 11 Jul 2006 10:46:51 -0700, "Merle O'Broham"

You mean I don't have the only one!!!?????!!!!!
:O
tom @ www.NoCostAds.com
:p
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Tom The Great wrote: <blockquote cite=" snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On 11 Jul 2006 10:46:51 -0700, "Merle O'Broham" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto: snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com">&lt; snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com&gt;</a> wrote:
</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I told my Wifey about my intentions. She laughed, and walked off.
Not feeling the love. ;)
</pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">Any chance you have a wife (also) that loves your projects only when they're completed? ;-) </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!---->
You mean I don't have the only one!!!?????!!!!!
:O
tom @ <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.NoCostAds.com ">www.NoCostAds.com</a>
:p </pre> </blockquote> <br> No. You do not have the only one. I've only been married 8 months and my wife ain't happy about a LOT of stuff that I've started.<br> </body> </html>
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Tom -- While there are lots of types of roses and many of them take quite a bit of care, you don't have to obsess over it.
If you want to grow florist quality roses you'll get involved in questions of soils, black spot and other diseases, appropriate root stock, fertilizers, spraying schedules, etc.
Instead, I'd suggest you start with easy-to-grow varieties, that may not have the fine points of patented hybrid tea roses, but which will provide color and fragrance. There are a few heritage roses that have done well for over one hundred years, which many nurseries will have. However, I'd suggest you find a local nursery (or even a big-box home store) that carries the "Knock Out" variety, a bush rose. Make sure your soil is reasonably fertile, plant the roses, and just deadhead the blossoms after they flower.
Knock Out gives you both color (red or pink) and fragrance and seem to do well under almost any conditions with little or no care. Regards --

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Ok- Here is what I have been learnt - This may not be entirely correct. But with this advice, lots of hard work and some good luck- you will be able to grow good looking roses . 1) Select an area that has full sun at least 6 hours in a day 2) Select an area that has good drianage. 3) Select an area that has good air flow. (don't plant next to a wall) 4) Prepare the soil- Dig at least foot and half (deeper the better) and mix peat moss and any horse manure (if you can). If you have lousy clay soil (like i do), you would need to add more vegetable matter like peat moss and manure. I was too lazy - I ordered some 'potting soil- pre mixed with manure". 5) Make holes that are at least 2 times the size of the root ball. If you are buying bare root roses- the hole with good soil must be atleat 1and half feet in diameter. Put some 6-6-6 balanced fetiliser at teh bottom of the hole. place the plant and fill the hole with dirt and pack it properly so that there are no air pockets. 6) Plant the roses at least 2 feet apart (3 is better). Do not be tempted to put more plants in a small space. (I was greedy and planted closer - only to later move them out). 7) Once you plant them- water them regularly. Feed weekly once with a foliage fertilizer like MG 8) Do not water in the evenings- Water the plant only in the morning. If you water in the evenings- the damp leaves develop problems. 9) Purchase a sprayer and a rose (for black spot problem) spray concentrate. Mix a small portion as per instructions and spray the plant every 10 days at least once. Roses have too many problems. And you must keep them clean and medicated. 10) Rose plants react to pruning more than any other plant that i have experience with. There are a few thumb rules in pruning. First of all - cuts must be made outward) at 45 degrees (slant cut). The cut should be above a strong thorn that is facing outward (it is called a node or some such thing- they have some fancy names among rose growers). Cut of branches that are over lapping and growing inward. Cut off all growth that starts at the bottom root crown. 11) After flowering, remove the flower as it begins to fade by cutting at the stem. 12) Remove any cuttings- fallen leaves- pruned branches from the vicinity of the plant. 13) you can cut roses with long stems- but remmber to cut at the node facing outward 14) FALL TIME: I live in Ohio- Cincinnati area- same zone i think. These roses will flower through september october. After the first frost hits, clean all the debris around the base. Cover it with some mulch. and the let the rose bush sit through the winter. 15) EARLY SPRING: When the yellow flowers (forsythia) show up around the neighborhood - or the dogwoods begin to blossom, add one cup epsom slat and one cup 6-6-6 balaced fetiliser to the base of the 'DEAD LOOKING ROSE BUSH". Prune all the ugly looking branches. remember always cut at an angle. cut towards the outside. cut above a node. 16) COMPANION PLANTS: Roses like garlic and basil plants next to them as far as my experience goes. If you want to minimize the diseases and healthy rose plants i suggest you plant some galic cloves in the the fall and they will sprout up with the rose bush. in teh summer time basil plants help reduce diseases. 17) NO NEIGHBORS: Dont be tempted to plant other plants around roses- they dont like neighbors.
JimR"

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Tom The Great wrote:

Lots of good advice already, but wanted to throw in .02.
I have only 1 little sunny patch in my yard and it's dedicated to roses. I'm no expert, but I stick just about anything in the ground just to see if will grow, especially those little gift basket roses, the kind wrapped in cellophane with a card attached. Well surprise- if planted right and watered, they do last. So I have a motley little patch of mixed roses in different colors and heights- from giant climbing ones in the back to mid-sized old ones that came with the house to the little bushy basket ones down in front. Understand the science basics but remember to just have fun!
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