Bermuda Grass seeding

An area of my St Augustine lawn cooked last summer and died. I raked the dead grass up and planted Bermuda seed. How long does it take to show evidence of growth? It's been a week and nothing much has happened. Yes, between rain and watering the soil has been kept moist.
Thanks for any advice, crabshell
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Lucky day for you. I've been working on getting Bermuda (Sahara version) grass from seed since middle of March. Here's what I've seen: Ten days or so, have to look along the bare soil almost a ground level to see some "needles" popping from the soil. Overhead, will see nothing. Obvious sprouts around 3 weeks. Not all seed will sprout at the same time. Some slower than others. My take of what's going on is there must be a "dry spell" of a few days for germination to occur. Then, feast and famine water afterwards. Don't keep it drowned. Promotes root growth letting up on the water a day or two. Water the grass in the evening around the time the sun goes down.
How do you rake up St. Augustine? Hopefully you meant a bow rake.
My St. Augustine was miserable last year. Thought all was dead. Its finally making a comeback last week or so.
Bermuda grass here is on virgin soil I brought in. Front yard was primarily rock and caliche. 6" of soil seems to have done wonders.
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bad idea, promotes fungus and algea and mold etc. water in the morning. you want your grass dry at nite so thatbad stuff won't grow. keep it wet by watering lightly 2 -3 times a day till it sprouts then 1 inch a week.
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Bud said:

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Yup. Good catch. The "water in the evening" was awful advice.
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learned that one the hard way.:(
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Steveo said:

Hell ya. But, I wouldn't do it as my scheduled watering time. =)
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How cum I didn't see any fungus or mold or any other similar growth here? Maybe the coolness of the weather is my guess. I relied mostly on natural rain/drizzle most of the time.
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So you take off work for a few weeks to keep the ground wet strictly in the morning by renewing moisture 2-3 times at that time of day? Now I really don't understand keeping the soil wet in only the morning. What about the heat of the late afternoon drying stuff up, then the ground/soil is dry all night? Seed generally germinate overnight. Is morning here right after midnight, at sunrise, when the sun creeps over the trees to provide direct sunlight? Your area, and the backpatters agreeing with you must live in a terribly humid environment to have all that trouble with "pesky" mold and stuff. Never seen algae grow but in standing water. You guys must not irrigate, but drown instead. Unless of course your soil has poor drainage.
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Dave said:

Ever hear of a timer, smartass?

Which is evident by your posts about watering lawns, your knowledge of Bermuda grass germination habits, and about turfgrass management in general.
It's not about "keeping the soil wet only in the morning". It's about giving the exposed parts of the plant (which don't need the water on them at all), the rest of the day to dry off. If you've watered properly, the soil won't be dry by nightfall, except on the surface. But, the exposed parts of the plant will be dry, which is the way they like.

You must have missed the part about watering 2-3 times a day until it germinates. And, if your lawn is dry by afternoon, then you aren't giving a thorough watering, rather just wetting the surface.

Overnight? Bermuda seed won't germinate until the soil has sufficiently warmed (above 65F). This time of year, it may take a month of warm weather before the soil temps are right. With Bermuda, it also depends on if the seed is hulled, or not. You didn't bother to find out that key point, before you spewed your misinformation and guesses, did you.

Technically, sure; but not for watering purposes.

Now you're talking!

Were that the case, I suppose it's never morning in the jungle, huh?

Unless you're living in a very arid climate, fungus /will/ grow if you keep watering at night. Mold /will/ grow if you continue to water at night. It's only a matter of time. You're probably not diligent enough to recognize a fungal/mold/disease problem in turfgrass, anyway. I suppose that if you don't recognize something, it can't possibly exist.

That may be the first tidbit you've mentioned, that held some truth to it.
Your first reply was full of misinformation and guesses, yet you seem to think you're some sort of irrigation/turfgrass specialist. What education have you received, that qualifies your watering schedule above the industry standards for turfgrass management?
You'll see golf courses water at night. They can't very well water during the day, when the course is full of golfers, now can they? They also put down thousands of dollars in fungicides on a regular basis. Ask any of them though, and they'll /ALL/ tell you that they'd much rather irrigate in the daytime. I'm sure if you ask politely, they'll tell you why.

You must not understand irrigation and plant needs at all.

Unless of course you're another of Stubby's siblings, which seem to frequent this place.
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Eggs Zachtly wrote:

I know this would be extremely mean, hateful and down right ugly but I just can't seem to put the idea, of turning on the golf course irrigation system while the course is full of golfers, out of my mind. watching them scurry around so as to avoid being irrigated would be pretty funny but the real LOL would be watching them lodge their complaints with management.
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Jim said:

Oh, it happens. All of our heads can be put up remotely, via a keypad on our radios. Once in a while the wrong number gets pushed, inadvertently. They /do/ scurry, but rarely bitch about it. It's only a matter of seconds before the head can be put back down, so they don't that all /that/ wet. =)
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I'm no pro but I had some stuff that I thought was an algael [sp] scum for awhile till I stopped water at nite and watered less than other areas, and got some yearly aeration, now its as good as it gets. there is a lot of clay in that area too.
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Clay, poor drainage. Already thought that. Thought it odd all the backpatters had similar soil.
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The guy was trying to get the grass to germinate and sprout. You meander off to after that fact, not the process. Its been drizzly now for almost a week here. Very humid. No sign of any the the "bad things" you cited. Germinated, sprouted, and grass that's been going for a few weeks from seed. You are full of it from what I observe here vs. what you say. Consider writing a book on the non-existence of global warming per your charming replies.
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Wow, so u have a whole weeks experience with turfgrass management? think those bad things happen ovenite? or in a week or month? u just keep watering at nite and let us know how it is in a year or 2. I know u won't since we have straightened u out here, even if u're not man enough to admit it. you're wellcome butpacker
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Dave said:

And, you popped in as though you're the end-all of grass seed germination, and the High Priestess of Bermuda. In the same paragraph, you showed that you don't know shit about Bermuda, be it seed, germination, or watering needs. Your "take" on what was happening was so far off it's quite pathetic.

And, you would know how to recognize the "bad things"... how exactly? I'm positive you wouldn't recognize a mycelium if it jumped up and bit you in the ass. Most likely, your "take" would be that it was just part of the thatch.

Good for you. Keep watering all the time in the evening, and come back here mid summer and spew some more of your drivel. Please, put some pics of the area, online, at that time. I'm sure there are several here that would love to see how your lawn is coming along.

What you observe is meaningless. You've already stated how you percieve what's happening with grass seed germination. Your continuing stand on your beliefs shows just how much of an imbecille you actually are.

Nah, no need. If you don't believe in fungus in turf, you're a lost cause to convince that global warming is a fact. Hell, you can't even quote a newsgroup post properly, much less maintain proper lawn care. (Hint- the quoted message doesn't go behind the sig delimiter.) Get a cloo, dumbass.
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