Whao, I didn't say that it was adequite (or that it'd work). All I stated was that with the information posted, it was a little hash to state "get a lawyer" with your first post. Then ask questions about the install. Get the facts first.
I just think before stating "get a lawyer" that we make sure we have proof in the pudding. By stating "get a lawyer" from the gate does nothing but stir up the OP and raise their BP.
Same here, I'm sick of the everyday messes... but unfortunately it's not going to change overnight.
06, My first load Cal. was dated Mar.13,07 .which I paid for. I've paid for two from two other dealers. One shows 4.1 ton was needed, the other shows 4.7 , about the same CFM. They used detailed drawings, Our installor never ask for any drawings. And as comsumers we didn't know any better. Thanks,RT
I call "Bunk"! The OP's story is just way too screwed up. I believe it was the same old thing. He picked the lowest bidder and got what he paid for. No way can a company that installs "hundreds" of them keep doing it that badly and not finally get hammered. Your story is screwed up and/or your system is most likely screwed up. Find another waterfurnace dealer have him come out with a rep and get it straightened out. Be prepared for lots of expensive repairs. Tear out and Re-do. It should be about double or triple of what you originally paid. Why do you think we love hacks so much. Bubba
My BP has been raised for a year. The unit is under our master bedroom and I get up about 3am to turn off the breakers. It runs and runs. My dealers problem is that I ask questions. I work for a world wide company myself, factory rep. in mining. I go by the book. When I looked at the manuals, I started asking questions. I don't want to sue, but I've been and paying for test. And at the end of the day we want it to work. But it's hard to find people that takes pride in there work anymore. I hate hacks too!!
29% of the air is lost to duct leakage? Codes call for sealing & insulating in most states...
I agree, the air side is your problem. If Waterfurnace is all he installs, why is he Frankensteining a York unit w/swapped motor & incorrect line sizes. What reason would he have to switch a 5 ton blower to a 1 horse, unless he knew the duct was undersized.
When you hired the guy was this the system he bid to you? I'd like to see that proposal, do you have this in writing? Did you sign it?
Waterfurnace has no dog in this fight because their equipment can't be proven faulty until it's correctly installed. The inspectors may well be pests, but I'd hound them to keep on this guy, now & in the future.
I'd have the other Waterfurnace guy give you a bid for corrective procedures & get going on them. Anything but a Waterfurnace compatible variable speed air handler is unacceptable. The VS blower will save you $15-20.00 a month alone (over a typical 5Ton blower) If your using a desuperheater for a waterheater 75' away, I doubt that's saving much money either.
Everything in your house, except the most energy consuming thing, is energystar rated... It's up to you as to how you recoup the money spent, but I'd document everything.
Did this guy also install the loops? If he does this above ground I can imagine he's really creative with the stuff you can't see. I'd have the temps, pressures & flow rates tested before I finalized anything with this guy. I certainly hope the 2000' is 6-150' wells & not a single 1000' ft loop... I'd ask the well driller, or does this guy own his own drill rig too? The county water board probably has a pretty decent record of all wells drilled... at least they do in my area.
This OP's story is the way it is. Most don't know any better. I've had another waterfurnace dealer doing test. The installor must ask for a factory rep. I've been asking for a year, after two TXV's was replaced and 3 months later the compressor was replaced. I fill I've paided enought. I'm like you, how could he be a dealer for waterfurance. Since they went puplic, sells is all they care about. Or call waterfurance and ask for Bob Peck, ask him who installs the most units for him. Then you will know the rest of the story.. Regards, RT
KJpro, you may be correct on this. BTW, When reading my post it seemed somewhat aggressive towards you; it was not meant to be. I have a lot on my mind lately, sorry if I offended you, it was not intentional.
LOL, I didn't see this post, I made another one in response to your other previous post.
There I stated that I re-read my post and it seemed aggressive and wasn't meant to be, just have a lot going on right now with family etc.
Also, I agree with you concerning this post. I have forgotten the first rule on this forum, Homeowners usually want everything free, and secondly, they usually get things wrong. Sounds like this guy however isn't a typical groaner, I bet Paul would disagree LOL !!!
Once again, sorry about the attitude that seemed to be expressed to you.
What the! Anybody notice the change in writing and grammar, this sounds like TURTLE here!! Maybe this is a Troll trap??? Then you say you replaced and PAID for two TXV's and a Compressor since Sept, which both are under warrnaty? I'm starting to believe your yanking our chains here.
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