This system will save: energy costs, * the life of the HVAC system, Kill any * viruses, * mold, * mildew, and * bacteria that come in contact with the UVC light. This will prevent the * microbial from being circulated throughout the building.
It is in my belief with proven fact that there are millions of Americans that are suffering needlessly with allergen symptoms. Being one of the more predominate problems, as I am sure all of you are aware of ?* dust mites? and the ill effects that they have.
The services that I propose will not only be of help to those allergen suffers, but will indeed be of great help to all. Children can develop asthma from the ?dust mites?; people whom have no allergies can develop them.
As you are aware of hospitals have been using UVC light technology in the area of fifty years plus, for such purposes as TB Wards, Water Purification, Surgical Rooms and Instrumental Sanitation. Now the technology has advanced to perform more applications, than traditional ones.
Hospitals have been using X-Ray machines, bone saws, and Colon scopes for a really long time. The technology has advanced on those items, too. That doesn't mean that someone needs to go out - with no knowledge or training as to how to install or use them - and buy one of those items just because it's been used in a hospital. Well, if you really wanted to,
Second, don't voice an opinion unless you have the knowledge to do so.
Third, If you read what was posted read further to understand that the products does in fact have many benefits.
Last and final you statements are ridiculous about hospitals. You could not buy those products psycho. Products are not sold publicly if they impose a danger.
You right Jim UVC would help lots of people and specially those that suffer with allergies, It would also be nice that AC companies include into system as option DeHumidity coil that could be hook up separately from AC with SS drip pan. it would be also nice Swiss masseur to gave massage once a while. Mmmmm I in wrong business Tony
What I find funny Noon is that if you read the reports posted by the O.P. , you 'll find the EPA testing is in regards to "aerosol effects" in relationship to "harmful" materials that could be introduced into an HVAC system. The testing basically was to see if UVC lamps would help reduce biological agents introduced into the HVAC. I didn't see anything about "mold", or "efficiency" or even "allergies."
The GSA recommendation is interesting in that it directly contradicts the Mfg.s' recommendations. Some UVC Mfg.'s suggest putting lights in several duct system locations "other than downstream."
And, I didn't see any reference to NOT SELLING these devices to the public?
At least that's my take on the reading... I might have missed something though.
Ok there are two different types for a HVAC system the one you read from the EPA is typically installed on the downstream air to kill yes biological, but if you can kill them the amount of the UV dose nm~cm2 the biological (anthrax 46,000 nm~cm2 ) are the highest in the range. So all that would fall below that UV-C dose range as "allergens", viruses and bacterias would be killed.
Now as far as "mold", "efficiency" and "allergens". Mold would call for coil irradiation. As you know mold is always and continuously growing on the coil because it is a perfect environment for mold to grow.
When the UV-C is applied to the face of the coil it will kill the mold, thus having pressure drop across the coil which would equal "efficiency". The motor for the unit would not have to work as hard because there is not restriction on the coil (mold) on the air flow; so you will accomplish extended life of the HVAC, energy saving becasue the unit is not working as hard and no maintenance to clean the coil with pressure washing which would not be as well. Plus, the fouled air would not be as fouled.
An air side pressure drop would lessen the air flow and reduce the amount of work that the fan motor has to do.It would also reduce the load on the compressor so how can you claim - " The motor for the unit would not have to work as hard
If the coil was all clogged up with mold, would there not be a restriction on the air flow? Yes, there would so if the coil is no longer clogged with mold then what I said would happen, no? Not to mention you would no longer be spreading mold throughout a building. And I forgot to mention before some HVAC manufactures sell this as a OEM in their shipped units.
The only "opinions" that I voiced is the fact that you are spamming this newsgroup, and that one of your justifications for the need of these devices - in part - is because "hospitals have been using UVC light technology...." Whether a hospital uses something is irrelevant. The examples I gave are valid. I totally agree with "don't voice an opinion unless you have the knowledge to do so" in that you are nothing more than a guy trying desperately to make a few coins spamming newsgroups.
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Based on the information on your web page, all you are is someone trying to sell something made by a company that doesn't even list you as an authorized distributor.
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For that matter, the reps they do list are mostly HVAC companies, and are therefore qualified to make a determination as to whether one of these systems is appropriate for a given application. I've been unable to find anyone with your last name (James the
3rd) listed as being licensed in any relevant field in NJ.
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Absolutely not the issue here.
Lets see (for a while anyway...) I buy a UV-C system from you, hook em up to some power 'cause I want to see the pretty light. 5 minutes go by, and I decide "that's cool" and unhook it. 2 hours later, I've got a real good case of "sand in eyes" from the dead skin flaking off my corneas. As far as the X-ray machine issue... There's nothing to stop you from buying one. (click on the link, he'll sell it to you) It's what you do with it after you get it. Cars, knives, and chainsaws can be pretty dangerous in the wrong hands.
Yup. That's not for you. It's for HVAC companies that are contracted to provide systems under GSA contract.
Why? I'm not selling anything here. If I were, and they require it, there would be profit on the equipment, and money to be made on the install hours.
Funny thing, mold. Mold likes to grow in a dark environment. Mold likes to be warm. Mold needs some organic material to breed upon. Mold is in the air all around us. Mold spores are in the air around us all the time.
Funny things about air conditioning & refrigeration. The coil seems to run cool compared to other environments. [40º F in air conditioning]. Mold doesn't necessarily like cold. If the homeowner keeps up on the filters, there's little organic material.
What happens is during the off cycle / winter months, mold can develop provided there is some water available. Eventually, the water is gone, the mold dies, but alias, it does foul the coil.
And yes UVC will prevent mold build up to begin with. But I believe a standard incandescent light will too for a whole lot less $$$.
Don't get me wrong, I install UVC 's when the customer wants / needs them. But for the sake of arguing, I'm arguing.
BTW: Could you please type using capitol's at the beginning and periods at the end of your sentences. And please use coherent verbs, nouns, and participles. It makes for easier reading. Thanks.
Ok, so if what you say is true what is the growth on a coil and why is there a need to clean them. You can take a sample from the coil, have it tested to prove that it is in fact mold, bacteria, etc.
One of the best food sources is human skin flakes, which are everywhere. Yes, changing the filters will help but not solve. And you only addressed the AC side of a HVAC what about heating? Always dark and damp, just as mold likes.
Plus you wrong about the incandescent light, it is in the wrong spectrum of light to kill what we are talking about.
Some of you are trying so hard to keep implying that I am spamming. Yes I do have a website there is nothing to purchase on it. I did post in some differnt groups to get thier imput just as I did here. As to me not being an authorized distributor I am. Their site was updated and some information still needs to be placed.
Just because I am not an HVAC company that does not disqualify as to what I may know about these products as well as HVAC.
First off I didn't sell you anything. There are some precautions to take with UV-C light, if they should be misused as in any application they do impose a danger. So I would not suggest powering one up and looking at the light.
Hospitals are relevant because this technology kills in the same manner in a HVAC application.
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Bill with your knowledge someday I will be as smart as you. If you pressure wash it or use chemicals, your putting additional VOC's into the air with the chemicals, if you pressure wash you only get in maybe
1/4 of the coil. With the UC-V aluminum is the bets reflective source for the light so it bounces in the Plenum or in the air handling room everywhere, not only the coil.
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