UV-C Light

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Dear Home Enviro Health Specialists:
On Jun 7, 12:56 pm, Home Enviro Health Specialists
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The graphs are reflectance of *aluminum* (and other metals) at different wavelengths. UV-C is indicated as in an area that "falls off". Which means that aluminum does not reflect, but scatter... a whole different (and lossy) process.

Your UV is not doing this either. Your generated ionized atmospheric species may be.

It is not the UV on these interior surfaces, it is the ionized atmospheric species (ozone and NOx) that is "trying" to keep the surface clear.
In general, ionizing radiation does not reflect, as you claim. You should not do that.
David A. Smith
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dlzc wrote:

Almost forgot ozone is effective but it is also an irritant. The units that I have are "non-producing ozone lamps".
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I see, now! I didn't understand your notmagicscience! They're ozone lamps that are non-producing!
These lamps have a short enough wavelength output to destroy organics, but not enough energy to pump O2 up into O3.
Ahhhhh....It's all clear now.
(At what distance did you say they were effective? And, for what linear rate of airflow within that range?) (Oh... you might be interested to know that in small concentrations, ozone is a mood elevator, and not irritating.)
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:

Loyd UV-C Light is non producing ozone in it self, generally you need to implement some sort of metal (or a combination of metals) in liquid form (to coat the bulb) or a plate (actual pieces of the metal in contact with the bulb) of it to get the UV-C Light to interact with it and then it will produce ozone. The bulbs have an output of 254 nm, which is the ideal range for the germicidal spectrum of UV-C Yes, ozone is pretty much oxygen in a plasma state, so it will elevate a persons mood but people can be irritated (respiratory system, eyes, throat) by it as well. If used it needs to be monitored and sized for the correct application. There are factors that are needed, and depending on what pathogen(s) you want to target. Let's say irradiate a coil for mold; you would need to know the size of the coil, the cfm of the unit and the size of the plenum - typically you would add 2-3 above and below the coil and 3 1/2 for each side for the bends extending off the coil. Then this is put into a software program to determine how much UV-C will be needed to treat the area. You will given an installation diagram; how many units, where to mount the units, at what height and the horizontal position of the units.
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Ah... kind of like those made-to-purpose ozone generators that shine a UV lamp onto a crinkled aluminum reflector?
Hmmmmm...... "crinkled aluminum reflector".... Does anyone know where we might find a crinkled aluminum reflector in HVAC equipment?
Oh.... you already told us, "Cover plastic parts with aluminum tape....; (aluminum-finned) Evaporator coil stay clean...."
How do you coat the outside of a bulb with liquid metal?
LLoyd
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:

No aluminum is the best reflective source for UV-C it will not allow the UV-C to produce ozone. But you getting close it is a metal, but Titanium for an example in contact with the UV-C would work to produce ozone.
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kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:

Actually I'm surprised that you believe in technology at all, even in the respect of HVAC.
Why use a condenser, evaporator, coil, thermostat, chiller, cooling tower, compressor, etc. Shit just get a aluminum garbage can filled with ice and put a fan behind it <---- Instant AC ----> Reverse application for Heat ,, build a in fire in the garbage can.
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No, actually, you're the one that believes in imaginary things.
I think you better go to an HVAC school before you *think* you know more than we do.
Where's that condenser coil mounted again. LMAO
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Wooo group;
Put on the BLAKE LIGHT! [Not a typo]
You getting UVC salesperson all upset
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Zephyr wrote:

Nah, why get upset.
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-zero wrote:

I would but one problem I only have salted. But thanks
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He actually runs a maid service. Apparently, he'll come to your house, and suck your bed off. Then he gives it the once over with a germicidal lamp. He then gives you a bottle of magic spray (that's what he calls called Anti-Alergen spray) to deal with the leftover bits and pieces of what he says kilt with the UV-C light. http://homeenvirohealth.com/homeenvirohealth_005.html
By his own explanation earlier here, the UV-C turns the bad stuff into dust. So, he should be sucking the bed off after he makes dust out of all the goodies left on the mattress - if not before and after. Of course, if he were to read up on the subject, REAL studies done have shown that most of the mites live deeply in the mattress, so the magic UV light can't even get to them. Maybe he just uses it like a blacklight to see who's been doing who......
http://www.acaai.org/public/advice/dust.htm http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2157.html
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You can do that with UV-C!!!!
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Zephyr wrote:

YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ THE REPLY TO THE POSTING TOO.
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Mo Hoaner wrote:

Your talking about the mattresses now. I as only talking about HVAC prior. They are two different applications. But again you like to argue and think you right when you have no idea what your talking about. The mattress aspect has been on the news and used in Europe for 30 years. Th UV-C Light will penetrate a mattress deep enough to kill, mold, mildew, viruses, bacterias, dust mite eggs and it alters the DNA of the dust mites as in other micro- organisms so that they are unable to reproduce and eventually will die as well. The vacuum is to extract as much as possible so the UV-C light is more effective and to rid the areas of as many dust mites as possible. The spray is produced by a major corporation that is use as maintenance between cleaning for control. You might want to read more about a topic before you present such strong opinions. You might want to read more on my website to learn more about real studies, since you were so kind enough to point it out. I never said it turns the bad stuff to dust is will disintegrate them. You really do need some help.
BELOW ARE THE WEBSITES THAT YOU LISTED ABOVE. BELOW EACH OF THE WEBSITES IS THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE READ THERE. CAN YOU READ? DO YOU KNOW HOW TO? YOU JUST KEEP GOING MAKING IGNORANT STATEMENTS AND CLAIM THAT I NEED TO READ UP ON THE SUBJECT. NOT THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU NEED HOW TO READ AND EXPRESS AN OPINION WHEN AND ONLY WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT JUST BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. FIRST USE YOU BRAIN THEN SPEAK OR TYPE. UNTIL THEN STOP STATING THINGS ABOUT ME THAT ARE NOT TRUE. I HAVE RESEARCHED AND I CONTINUE TO DO SO AND I DON'T PASS COMMENTS OR MAKE STATEMENTS UNLESS I AM 100% THAT I KNOW WITH FACTS ABOUT WHAT I SAY. YOU MIGHT TRY THE SAME.
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2551.htm <-- Source, the information provided below have been from this website to educate Mo
HABITS AND HABITATS
Dust mites do not live in air ducts in homes. Many people spend much time and money cleaning the air ducts to reduce dust mites. This is not necessary because dust mites need about 70 percent relative humidity or higher to live, and they need food. Areas where people spend much time, like a bed or a favorite plush chair, are prime sites for dust mites. The **** top part of mattresses containing fibrous material is a favorite place for dust mites during warm and humid times. The ** deeper parts of mattresses may provide protected areas for the dust mites during unfavorable conditions. Clothing is used by dust mites as a means of transportation from room to room or even from house to house.
CONTROL
**** Vacuum often with a vacuum cleaner provided with a high efficiency purifying air (HEPA) filtration system. Throw away vacuum bags after use because dust mites can leave the bag.
http://www.acaai.org/public/advice/dust.htm <-- Source, the information provided below have been from this website to educate Mo
What are dust mites? Tiny microscopic creatures called dust mites are an important cause of allergic reactions to house dust. They belong to the family of eight-legged creatures called arachnids. This family also includes spiders, chiggers and ticks. Dust mites are hardy creatures that live well and ** multiply easily in warm, humid places. They prefer temperatures at or above 70F with a relative humidity of 75-80 percent and die when the humidity falls below 40-50 percent. They are rarely found in dry climates.
As many as ** 10 percent of the general population and *** 90 percent of people with allergic asthma are sensitive to dust mites. *****Recent studies in the United States suggest that at least 45 percent of young people with asthma are allergic to dust mites.
People who are allergic to dust mites react to proteins in the bodies and feces of the mites. ***** These fecal particles are found in the highest concentrations in pillows, mattresses, carpeting, and upholstered furniture. They float into the air when anyone vacuums, walks on a carpet or disturbs bedding, but settle out of the air once the disturbance is over. Dust mite-allergic people who inhale these particles frequently experience allergy symptoms. In fact, a dust mite allergic patient who sleeps for 8 hours every night spends one third of his life with his nose in direct contact with a pillow loaded with dust mite particles!
There may be many as 19,000 dust mites in one gram of dust, but usually between 100 to 500 mites live in each gram. (A gram is about the weight of a paper clip.) Each mite produces about 10-20 waste particles per day and lives for 30 days. Egg-laying females can add 25-30 new mites to the population during their lifetime.
**** Mites eat particles of skin and dander, so they thrive in places where there are people. Dust mites don't bite, cannot spread diseases and usually do not live on people. They are harmful only to people who become allergic to them. While usual household insecticides have no effect on dust mites, there are ways to reduce exposure to dust mites in the home.
http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2157.html <-- Source, the information provided below have been from this website to educate Mo
Sanitation
The application of frequent vacuuming as a dust control measure is more likely to aggravate allergic asthmatic conditions because **** conventional vacuums are very "inefficient." Dust collection by conventional vacuums results in a significant increase in air borne dust concentrations. Vacuuming is best accomplished by cleaners that entrain dust into a "liquid medium" such as water (rather than a dust bag), which reduces the suspension and dissemination of allergenic dust particles in the air. Some pest control firms sell ***** air purifiers to eliminate the food source of house dust mites. Air purifiers emit a low level of ozone (activated oxygen). Ozone attaches to fungus, mold, and bacteria on skin flakes. Machines sell for around $625 and last up to 15 years. About the size of a bread box, an area up to 2,500 square feet is protected. There is no maintenance required other than a thorough cleaning once every three to four months. The air purifier is placed near a return for air conditioning or heating system or centrally located within the home.
Various types of air purifiers can be attached to the central air return to decrease irritants. Most filters remove 50 to 70 percent of material. HEPA filters will remove up to 99 percent of the material. Indoor air quality is very important. (One needs to bring in fresh outside air rather than recirculating dirty air.) Some filters need to be changed monthly.
Some feel it is important to focus on decreasing indoor humidity, especially during the winter period to reduce dust mite populations. One might forsake humidifier use during winter periods, use of dehumidifiers during high-humidity periods, or use of central air conditioning. Effective control of mites would require the maintenance of relative humidities below 50 percent (mites thrive in humid conditions).
Chemical Control
No pesticides are currently labeled for house dust mites. **** However, two non-pesticide products, Acarosan and Allergy Control Solution are available for treatment of house dust mites and their allergens. The active ingredient of each is benzyl benzoate and tannic acid. Benzoic acid esters, such as benzyl benzoate, are very effective acaricides in both laboratory and field evaluations. Health risks appear to be slight as benzoates are rapidly metabolized in the body to hippuric acid, which is excreted in the urine. Most acaricidal studies for house dust mite control have been done in Europe. Before pesticide recommendations are made in the United States, approval will be needed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). For additional information, telephone 1-800-7ASTHMA.
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Mo Hoaner wrote:

These systems only treat the evaporator coil and either down stream air or mix air chambers. The condenser coil is mounted outsidein the condenser, to discharge heat. I NEVER said I know more about HVAC than any of you. I said I wanted to learn from you more.
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