Heres something for Paul to get worked up over!1 LOL
Scroll on down and look at this INFERNO, but the building didn't fall down,
but an alluminum plane brought down the WTC's, yeh, right ........
Oh, heres another to keep you busy.
Got to go to bed, enjoy the study, Paul :-)))
I'm having a BBQ this friday, I wonder if my non UL certified Barbie will
Funny that this other picture didn't show it falling even though the
building was the same type structure, it burned just as hot if not hotter
than the WTC and the ENTIRE building was engolfed. Look at it after the
fires and when it cooled down the steel was still strong enough to support a
crane to assist in its demolition.
Have a great week all thinking about this while I'm sweeting in a tux!
God, he must to have put your brains in some animal because no one could
come back to my initial post and be so extremely stupid!
Here is the link of your too stupid to fiquir out how to get there, its
about one minute long.
I will put it in large print for you mr retard. THIS VIDEO IS FROM THE
DESIGNER OF THE BUILDING.
HE SAID IT WAS DESIGNED FOR IMPACTS OF JETS
FACT: THE 707 had more mass and speed than the planes that crashed into the
It seems your the idiot, it also seems funny that you pop out of nowhere,
your either a regular that is a fool or another operative from the NIS that
pops up like other places when anything questionable comes up about 9-11.
Rich, this isn't from the designer. It's from the project manager.
Some time ago there was an hour or so long show on this topic. The
primary person interviewed was the architect who was in charge of the
building design and was one, among several, that developed the concept
of building the WTC towers in the fashion they were built. He was
pretty adamant that the impact wasn't the problem, but that the fire
I will not instigate revolution -Bart
The guy who designed the building also stated that multiple 707's could
crash into the buildings.
BUT, the interesting part is the 707 is HEAVIER and holds 1000 gallons more
of that special fuel you think they carry that can destroy steel rated over
2400 degrees but jet fuel is much less than that.
It seems that the man knows what he was talking about because people are
photographed standing IN THE HOLES of the buildings just minutes after
Ass's like your or NIS operatives will believe anyone and say anything.
Jerk. I bet if I said your mother was a whore you probably would also call
me a liar!
take this 1 million dollar challenge if you are so convinced that the WTC
came down due too those planes.
NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVEN APPLIED FOR THIS CHALLENGE>>
Surely some experts on this group can win the one million dollars! After
all, everyone here is smarted that the advanced engineer who was claimed the
BEST engineer ever in the world of sky scrappers, who designed the
buildings, and who said they could take MULITPLE impacts of jet liners.
Come on you all, show us what you made of, enter the contest
Also, watch this video of a woman who took the elevators from ABOVE the
impact zone to the ground. I thought that the report stated that the
elevators were taken out and thiis is why they lost everyone from above the
impact area. Hmmm, if the elevators were working and she and 10 others
escaped, then this means the support columbs WERE not damaged! Mr. Digital,
it seems that once again YOUR the idiot.
Videos where firemen stated that explostions from the basement blew UP the
stairs and actually blew off their helmets!!!
So what is it, the planes took out all the elevators but Mary Baldizzi and
ten others rode the elevator all the way down to the first floor? I thought
the planes took out the center columbs.....
Hmmm, Mr. NIS CIA or FBI or a regular here who is afraid to post his real
name, it seems that YOUR the idiot.
Nope. What the actual design engineer said was they where designed to
withstand the impact of a plane from that time era, but he didn't
consider the jet fuel.
Also, ask any firefighter about truss construction, and he'll tell you
an all too familiar saying amongst firefighters and emergency personell,
"Never trust a truss!"
Truss construction has claimed many firefighters' lives.
They are known to fail rapidly when exposed to heat.
Shopping malls and factories are very commonly made with trusses.
Twenty minutes of direct flame impingment and down they come.
Some of the elevators were incapacitated after the initial impact, but
As soon as the fire alarms were activated, all functioning elevators
automatically went to the ground floor and could only be operated with a
service key. They cannot be summoned from upper levels. This is to
prevent passengers from unsuspectingly being delivered to a fire floor.
If the elevators were working, the firefighters wouldn't have been
climbing the stairs with 80 lbs of equipment on their backs for 75
floors. After a short peroid of time, all the elevators were knocked
Jet fuel poured down the elevator shafts and ignited, blasting back up
That's how people on the ground floor who had just gotten off elevators
ended up being blown out the front doors onto the street, some engulfed
Thats NOT what he said, Bob. He said it was designed to withstand a FULLY
LOADED jet liner of that time!
IF YOU READ my links and posts you would see that there is very LITTLE
difference between the 707 and the 767!
Frank DeMartini did NOT say what you said he said, but he did say FULLY
LOADED. Please show me in print or video where he said anything different.
Hmmmm, this seems to contracdict your theory. This idea come from an
so does this site
This next video explains the errors in this theory.
Where were you when the subject started months ago? Did you even look at
ONE link? I didn't think so.
How about Jeff King, proffessor of MIT engineering and engineering research.
I wonder if you or others will take the time too watch it, I honestly doubt
it. It seems that everyone here is smarter than people at MIT with PhD's who
are experts in engineering and research concering these fields.
It seems that everyone here who wants to accept the idea that planes and
fire brought down the WTC does the following things.
1. Ignore to watch the videos
2 Ignore to read the links and discussions
3 Fail to submit answers to the absolute contradictions in the goverment
reports that are 100% contrary to science, such as
a. Smoke from the building was black, but the fires were hot enough to
melt steel. This would be more of a miracle than anything Jesus did!
b. Fires were so hot it brought the building down, but pictures show
people standing in the openings, taking elevators down through infernos
c.Refuse to acknowledge the goverments agencies who have other facts
that dispute the 'theory's' of planes and fire, which I have presented
literally DOZENS of links but most are ass's and come back with such
statements that have NOTHING to do with the questions presented in the
links! Its OBVIOUS that you people do not watch or read anything, you bury
your head in the sand and follow what you WANT to believe! Do you do this
with everything in your lives? A great example is Bobs statement above......
You can't have it both ways, Bob. You say the fire was so intense that it
melted steel but people can travel through this inferno by elevators!! Give
me a break! The air would be consumed, the heat would have burned them
alive if the fire was that hot.
Also, look at this picture, you will see three people standing in the
openings justs MINUTES after the planes inpacted. You can see some fire on
the top right side. You mean this fire was so bad that it brought a building
down but people can stand there?
Oh, is that right, well then what about the ten people whose offices were
ABOVE the crash and they came down in four minutes Bob?
Did you even listen or watch the video, Bob? Your starting to show us that
you are determined to believe what you WANT to believe and nothing else.
That is a dangerous attitude, it might lead you to your destruction someday.
You fail to mention in your statement about time, Bob, The elevators worked
until the secondary explosions in the basement ! Do some research first Bob
before you make such statements that show you have not researched any of
this, you just follow what the government tells you like a lamb going to the
Thats NOT what happened, Bob!!! It blasted up the STAIRS. Man, when will you
do some research!
Come on, I'm about to ignore your posts if you can't do any better than this
constant ignoring of facts.
WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO OF THE FIREMAN TALK ABOUT IT, gesh, how hard is it to
Then you proove my argument, !!! Gesh, FEMA stated that the jet fuel burned
off almost instantaniously, but now you say it stayed around and poured down
the shaft and blew out the bottom of the building, Which report from the
government are you going to beleive, Bob? The FEMA report your the report
where you get this idea of jet fuel pouring down the shaft?
ALSO, if there was that much fuel Bob, how can people be standing where the
wings entered the building minutes after inpact? I'll be waiting for an
answer on that one!
If I sound angry I'm not, I'm just very disapointed that educated people
here ignore real questons and contradictions concerning the report from our
government. These are REAL issues and contradictions and major educated
players are asking these questions. If this was Germany 50 years ago this
group would be burning the books that even indicated a hint that there are
contradictions. I have presented REAL contradictions and what I get is
people who have never been here before replying to my post. DOESN't this
seem strange too you? I have discussed this in several different sites and
each time someone who has NEVER been on the site or the newsgroup replies
with the standard canned answers........... I don't think this is a normal
thing, and anyone with any common sense knows that the government has this
capability too review and reply to such posts and emails. If you don't think
so then you truely are burying your head in the sand.....
GEOMAN, PLEASE READ ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM.
Nightline:Anatomy of a Collapse
Black smoke is a result of carbon, ie. incomplete combustion.
Any uncontrolled fire, that is consuming curtains, chairs, carpets,
et all, will produce black smoke. It can also be hot enough to distort
steel. I don't know that any steel was "melted". But it will droop and
twist. And that's why no firefighter trusts a truss!
Not once the fire got rolling they didn't.
Any elevator controls installed in a major highrise in the last 20 years
will automatically cause the cars to return to the ground floor and stay
there until the system is reset.
Your timelines are out of wack.You're so eager to believe the big
Nope. Not what I said. Read it again.
No. It means they hadn't failed yet, that's all.
Think about this.
How many explosive charges would have to be planted to bring down a
building of that size?
How many holes drilled?
How many men doing the work?
How many miles of inter-connected wires to control the sequences of the
thousands of charges?
Where would all those wires culminate?
Who would detonate the charges?
How would all those charges be installed without anyone knowing?
When would all those charges be installed?
At night? What about all the cleaning staff? The maintenance staff?
The security staff?
You think there's one master key for all those financial offices?
You think none have their own security personell? Their own security
You think those buildings are empty at night?
Now, multiply all that shit by two, because two buildings came down.
They were big, massive structures, but that doesn't mean they were able
to defy the laws of physics.
A plane loaded with jet fuel smashed into them.
The steel trusses weakened, as steel trusses do in all severe fires, not
just shopping malls.
A huge, heavy portion of the upper building collapsed onto the lower
section, and pile-drived it to the ground.
I've listened to hours of actual radio transmissions from the scene.
I've spoken to guys who were there.
I've been in heating and air for 20 years.
I've been a firefighter for 25 years.
Lets say you are 100% correct. So WTF are you going to do about it
Rich? Its too late to vote for bush again. Just think, if you would
have elected kerry, the twin towers would still be standing, and we
wouldn't be buried up to our eyeballs in Iraq.
So how did the bid for the church work out?
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