Payne vs Carrier vs Bryant


We decided to throw in the towel and finally replace our ~25 year old Carrier furnace. We're not going to replace the AC unit.
I'm wondering if anyone has any opinions on these bids ($ is for equipment plus install).
(1) $2450 for Payne pg8maa042090. 1 year labor warranty. (2) $3500 Bryant 315 AAV04890. 2 year labor warranty. (3) $3430 Lennox G0UHV-36B-090. No details on warranty.
NB: we're probably not going to live in this house for more than 3 more years.
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On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 12:45:43 -0700 (PDT), woger151

Then fuck it and keep what you got.
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Depends where the OP lives but if it's in Canada like me, you'll get the money back when you sell the house cause it'll have a newer furnace. it'll be one less thing that potential buyers will scrutinize.
I say get the cheapest to give you security for the next couple of years and let the new owners deal with it after.
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Thanks. That's exactly my thought. Their home inspector won't say, "OK, furnace is really old, but all the parts are new!" He'll say, "furnace is really old."

Then it's the Payne. :-)
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Never know. Depends on the background of the inspector. My home inspector ripped apart my furnace and blower cover and humidifier as part of his inspection on my request. It is a 12 year old system mid-effieicent so something tipped me off, he agreed and we spent 15 or 20 minutes going over that. The buyer of your home may not ask their inspector anything. They may not know to ask the inspector to do this, or they may know more than the inspector for example or want the inspector to focus on either areas like electrical or structural.
Most likely the real estate agent will let the potential bidders for your home know it's a new furnace as it's a bit of a selling point. So what if you lose $400 or $500 on the furnace the next couple of years. You have a security in a new system, your heating bills will most likely be lower and you'll get some money back.
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In my part of the world. Goodman seems to be the discount brand.
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On 8/2/2010 8:16 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

We started installing a 3.5 ton R410a Goodman unit today when we had to stop halfway through because of heat exhaustion. It hit 100F with a heat index of 105F. Tomorrow the heat index is expected to be 105-108F. I can't push myself like I could 25 years ago. :-(
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Isn't that the way. The day the customer most needs AC, is the day it's hardest to install. Much the same with below zero, and the furnace goes out.
Years ago, I used to have to go sit in the AC vehicle for a few minutes, and then go back to work.
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I don't know what is going on but yesterday at local supply there was a talk that some (I will use word organization) are starting to think twice about use of R-410 because of service problems with compressors and oil, Evacuation, ETC. it seems that equipment reliability with R-410 are not that great? Don't get your dandruffs up this is what I hear. I did replace two 3.5 HP just recently using R-410 but these units can not be compare to standard AC because they are running 24 hours / day 30 days/month so there is lot difference, on this systems average life can be expected about 4 years that is about it.

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On 8/3/2010 1:32 PM, Grumpy wrote:

We did finish up today and the darn thing was problem free. I did flush with N2 an pull a deep vacuum. The unit is very quiet and the customer is very happy. I think the heat index was something like 111-115F today and me and my buddy GB were run down from the heat, my hair hurts. We're going to have to train some youngsters to do the work while we resist the urge to step in and do it ourselves.
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You command the job by walkie talkie. From the air conditioned van?
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On 8/4/2010 7:18 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I've got a really neat set of little 22channel GMRS radios from Wally World for $25.00 a while back and I use them when pulling wire or for anything the requires two people working on either side of a wall.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/258dhys
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Years ago, I did some research. Now, I'll try to only buy walkies that run on 3 AA cells, not four AAA cells. Much more power in the larger cells. That said, I bet those work nicely. The actual range is probably half mile, under normal conditions.
Something I like to do. Put the other walkie out a ways, and talk in the top, side, center, etc. While transmitting. Find the microphone, and talk into the mic. I was out at a historic site with some friends and trying to talk to their seven year old boy. I couldn't hear what he was saying. I traded radios, and tried that. I found the mic, and told him to talk into the mic. His reply was "Oh, I do it like this" and proceeded to talk into the speaker. It was all I could do, not to whack him in the head, the clueless little idiot.
I did use FRS sets on the job a while back. My boss would get a phone call. He'd turn off the walkie, or walk away and leave it some where. The clueless big idiot. I found it easier to call on my cell phone, and the walkies didn't get much use. FRS set is a lot cheaper in the long run.
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Child abuse tendencies noted.
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I have only had 2 warranty claims on all of the 410a systems that I have installed.... one had an evap coil leak after 6 months, and the other was a TXV that went bad after 3 years.
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