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The employee free choice act has the RTW people very afraid. They will spend millions to fight it which proves to any actual working person that the EFC act is a very good thing. It will allow workers to sign a card without the boss looking over his or her shoulder and threatening a layoff or firing. They have been cheating workers out of their rights for long enough. We need to stand together and tell our congress to pass this right away. This will do more to stabilize our economy than any other stimulis on the table. This will give more voice to the workers and put money in our pockets
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:54:49 -0800 (PST), Millwright Ron

    You are fucking insane. It FORCES employees to 'sign up for the union' WHILE UNION BOSSES WATCH THEM SIGN THEIR CHOICE, instead of by a SECRET PRIVATE BALLOT, that all-American tradition. Of course, you fucking socialists don't like that .....
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:35:48 -0500, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:

If you want to spin something you should at least have the facts.
To amend the National Labor Relations Act to establish an efficient system to enable employees to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to provide for mandatory injunctions for unfair labor practices during organizing efforts, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Employee Free Choice Act of 2007'.
SEC. 2. STREAMLINING UNION CERTIFICATION.
(a) In General- Section 9(c) of the National Labor Relations Act (29 U.S.C. 159(c)) is amended by adding at the end the following:
`(6) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, whenever a petition shall have been filed by an employee or group of employees or any individual or labor organization acting in their behalf alleging that a majority of employees in a unit appropriate for the purposes of collective bargaining wish to be represented by an individual or labor organization for such purposes, the Board shall investigate the petition. If the Board finds that a majority of the employees in a unit appropriate for bargaining has signed valid authorizations designating the individual or labor organization specified in the petition as their bargaining representative and that no other individual or labor organization is currently certified or recognized as the exclusive representative of any of the employees in the unit, the Board shall not direct an election but shall certify the individual or labor organization as the representative described in subsection (a).
`(7) The Board shall develop guidelines and procedures for the designation by employees of a bargaining representative in the manner described in paragraph (6). Such guidelines and procedures shall include--
`(A) model collective bargaining authorization language that may be used for purposes of making the designations described in paragraph (6); and
`(B) procedures to be used by the Board to establish the validity of signed authorizations designating bargaining representatives.'.
(b) Conforming Amendments-
(1) NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD- Section 3(b) of the National Labor Relations Act (29 U.S.C. 153(b)) is amended, in the second sentence--
(A) by striking `and to' and inserting `to'; and
(B) by striking `and certify the results thereof,' and inserting `, and to issue certifications as provided for in that section,'.
(2) UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES- Section 8(b) of the National Labor Relations Act (29 U.S.C. 158(b)) is amended--
(A) in paragraph (7)(B) by striking `, or' and inserting `or a petition has been filed under section 9(c)(6), or'; and
(B) in paragraph (7)(C) by striking `when such a petition has been filed' and inserting `when such a petition other than a petition under section 9(c)(6) has been filed'.
SEC. 3. FACILITATING INITIAL COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.
Section 8 of the National Labor Relations Act (29 U.S.C. 158) is amended by adding at the end the following:
`(h) Whenever collective bargaining is for the purpose of establishing an initial agreement following certification or recognition, the provisions of subsection (d) shall be modified as follows:
`(1) Not later than 10 days after receiving a written request for collective bargaining from an individual or labor organization that has been newly organized or certified as a representative as defined in section 9(a), or within such further period as the parties agree upon, the parties shall meet and commence to bargain collectively and shall make every reasonable effort to conclude and sign a collective bargaining agreement.
`(2) If after the expiration of the 90-day period beginning on the date on which bargaining is commenced, or such additional period as the parties may agree upon, the parties have failed to reach an agreement, either party may notify the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service of the existence of a dispute and request mediation. Whenever such a request is received, it shall be the duty of the Service promptly to put itself in communication with the parties and to use its best efforts, by mediation and conciliation, to bring them to agreement.
`(3) If after the expiration of the 30-day period beginning on the date on which the request for mediation is made under paragraph (2), or such additional period as the parties may agree upon, the Service is not able to bring the parties to agreement by conciliation, the Service shall refer the dispute to an arbitration board established in accordance with such regulations as may be prescribed by the Service. The arbitration panel shall render a decision settling the dispute and such decision shall be binding upon the parties for a period of 2 years, unless amended during such period by written consent of the parties.'.
SEC. 4. STRENGTHENING ENFORCEMENT.
(a) Injunctions Against Unfair Labor Practices During Organizing Drives-
(1) IN GENERAL- Section 10(l) of the National Labor Relations Act (29 U.S.C. 160(l)) is amended--
(A) in the second sentence, by striking `If, after such' and inserting the following:
`(2) If, after such'; and
(B) by striking the first sentence and inserting the following:
`(1) Whenever it is charged--
`(A) that any employer--
`(i) discharged or otherwise discriminated against an employee in violation of subsection (a)(3) of section 8;
`(ii) threatened to discharge or to otherwise discriminate against an employee in violation of subsection (a)(1) of section 8; or
`(iii) engaged in any other unfair labor practice within the meaning of subsection (a)(1) that significantly interferes with, restrains, or coerces employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in section 7;
while employees of that employer were seeking representation by a labor organization or during the period after a labor organization was recognized as a representative defined in section 9(a) until the first collective bargaining contract is entered into between the employer and the representative; or
`(B) that any person has engaged in an unfair labor practice within the meaning of subparagraph (A), (B) or (C) of section 8(b)(4), section 8(e), or section 8(b)(7);
the preliminary investigation of such charge shall be made forthwith and given priority over all other cases except cases of like character in the office where it is filed or to which it is referred.'.
(2) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 10(m) of the National Labor Relations Act (29 U.S.C. 160(m)) is amended by inserting `under circumstances not subject to section 10(l)' after `section 8'.
(b) Remedies for Violations-
(1) BACKPAY- Section 10(c) of the National Labor Relations Act (29 U.S.C. 160(c)) is amended by striking `And provided further,' and inserting `Provided further, That if the Board finds that an employer has discriminated against an employee in violation of subsection (a)(3) of section 8 while employees of the employer were seeking representation by a labor organization, or during the period after a labor organization was recognized as a representative defined in subsection (a) of section 9 until the first collective bargaining contract was entered into between the employer and the representative, the Board in such order shall award the employee back pay and, in addition, 2 times that amount as liquidated damages: Provided further,'.
(2) CIVIL PENALTIES- Section 12 of the National Labor Relations Act (29 U.S.C. 162) is amended--
(A) by striking `Any' and inserting `(a) Any'; and
(B) by adding at the end the following:
`(b) Any employer who willfully or repeatedly commits any unfair labor practice within the meaning of subsections (a)(1) or (a)(3) of section 8 while employees of the employer are seeking representation by a labor organization or during the period after a labor organization has been recognized as a representative defined in subsection (a) of section 9 until the first collective bargaining contract is entered into between the employer and the representative shall, in addition to any make-whole remedy ordered, be subject to a civil penalty of not to exceed $20,000 for each violation. In determining the amount of any penalty under this section, the Board shall consider the gravity of the unfair labor practice and the impact of the unfair labor practice on the charging party, on other persons seeking to exercise rights guaranteed by this Act, or on the public interest.'.
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wrote:

Could you please repeat that, I wasn't listening. Sorry.
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:19:22 -0800, "kool"

    IOW, any request by any individual boots the process into gear.

    And HERE is where the socialist stick comes to bear. Note that the concept of 'a private secret ballot' is gone, replaced by 'a petition' - one that is presented to employees to sign ( or not ) PUBLICLY, AND THEIR SIGNATURE OR LACK THEREOF IS PUBLIC INFORMATION, available to the union organizers and thugs.
    The ability to 'make their choice in privacy', just like an American electoin, is replaced by 'their choice to sign or not sign a public petition where anyone and everyone can see what they chose'.
    Goodby to the ability to say 'NO !' without the union thugs knowing who deserves their ire and retaliation.
    Also, goodby to the right of states to declare themselves by state law 'right to work' states free of unions.

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It's about time. Unionization by it's nature is a Democratic process. The only democratic process in the workplace.
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:36:43 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@mucks.net wrote:

You got that right. A long time ago I worked for a rat shop and we were organized. Throughout the process the owner made life working for him a living hell. We went union and never forgot how the asshole treated us. A few years later he went belly up. Things could have worked out for the better for him but he was a dick and got one broke off in his ass because of it.
Republicans hate to see the working man get ahead and they have done a pretty good job making sure that didn't happen over the last eight years. Their rein of terror is over and tomorrow is the dawn of a brand new day and the end of an error.
Goodbye GW Bush and good riddance. Don't let the door hit ya one the way out. In all fairness he did do one decent thing today. Of course he only half assed it like everything else he's ever done in his miserable life.
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Union workers also choose what companies they work for ( and which ones they wont work for ) And just like non-union, they are free to quit if they don't like the pay or whatever--main difference here only being that if they get treated like shit by the boss /owner then union members are tend to all quit at same time.
( otherwise called "going on strike" )
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Bipolar Bear wrote:

Oh? You mean like the Air Contollers Union? Good Riddance. The only real Unions left are the Communist ones imbedded in government. Such as the Post Office, FAA etc. All of those seem to have horrible over expenditures and that may also end soon.

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Complete and utter hogwash...
The REAL reason that Obama was elected :
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:40:09 -0500, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:

Enlighten me as to what "job titles" you refer to.
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The King wrote:

I can remember when General Dynamics closed shop and the residual nonUnion folks were denied the raises by the Union changing Job titles for all Union workers. That has been the mantra of the Union thugs from day one. I also remember the Union sending guys in suits through the parking lot Of Union membership drives, taking photos of license plates. That was a false flag to make nonunion folks think the company was doing it. In many cases it actually worked. You can feed that shit to others. The shop Unions of the earlier days was kinder and it worked. The Unions of today are Mostly Mob controlled and are badly damaging American jobs. Michigan is one damned good example of this damage.
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In the vast majority of cases, an owner is perfectly free to 'bust the union' by failing to accept a contract that proposes higher wages--still he is unlikely to attract and retain the most highly competent of workers if he chooses to do so.

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Bipolar Bear wrote:

I guess you are not bright enough to remember the Air controllers Union. Another Union that was using blackmail to gain unreasonable wages at taxpayer expense.

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Actually I do, hence my statement "in the vast majority of cases"
Obviously you are not bright enough to have actually READ what I posted.

Wages aren't "unreasonable" simply because there are no scabs with the required skill and experience level to replace union members...

Taxpayer expense?
Sorry I wasn't aware that pilots don't have to pay taxes and that the government had been giving away airline tickets up till the pilot strike wow who would of thunk ?
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snipped-for-privacy@mucks.net wrote:

Ah yes..Breaking legs with Ball bats and dumping recalcitrant leaders into American rivers with Chains to keep them down. Even Jimmy Hoffa saw the light in the end. Don't forget the AFL IO? that sold out to the Mob and had massive amounts of retirement funds stolen. How about the Union that defaulted when Penn Central went down. We tax payers are paying those retirement funds to this very day. Turns out that they didn't have what was put into it. No explanation given. Wanna tell us how many car companies went into the toilet because of slowing sales and Unions still demanding even more in wages. Hudson, Studebaker, American motors... Henry kaiser to the Union to fuck off and closed the doors on Kaiser/Frazer. He had the money and he damned well kept it. He said he had worked hard to help America win a war and it wasn't so some SOB could blackmail him out of his hard earned wealth. Henry Ford along with Edsel Condemned the Bloodsucking Unions and paid a very fair wage without their blackmail. The Union hired a couple of hundred thugs to intimidate Ford..So he hired 2000 war veterans to set that straight. The 1930's will show you what a bunch of criminals the Unions really were.
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Name one state that doesn't have any union representation. I wont hold my breath waiting because you cant.
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I hope you realize that Alex and Don Ocean are the same person..
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The King wrote:

Actually not.. He posts as patriot. And Mikey has been trolling as almost everybody here. Tell us all about the massive Job opportunities in your state Mikey. Would it be fair to say that over 50,000 Union faithful are out on there asses because they drove their jobs to outsourced countries? That just in your state, Mikey. You still hold your job because of massive seniority, buyt soon you may be whining like a little girl, because Obama cannot hold your jobs in America. Of course it is all the fault of some political party or the other.
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is a child molester I read it on the

Well then since Don has been in my bozo-bin for whats going on a year now I guess he can sit there and keep himself company.
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