Individual job conditions

Got a call, yesterday. Company wants me to estimate for changing filters on HVAC units at stores. They want a list of prices, based on the tonnage of the unit.
I went to the one store they needed estimate. Found several specific conditions and factors that would change the ammount of labor and bother needed.
The furnace was 12 feet above the floor. In a cage, with one door. By the bottom of the doorway was a gas pipe and a PVC drain, making it unsafe to put an extension ladder. Also, the warehouse is tightly packed, making it dificult to get an extension ladder to where it's needed.
And, they want me to quote all "# of tons" units the same.
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They already *KNOW* about all the problems and conditions... its why the last guy quit, and they are looking for another sucker
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Cynical, but profound.
BTW, they emailed this AM. "Please hold off from going to any more stores at this time. We just found out they are putting a hold on the PM'S for now due to they our changing a few things they want done and they will be getting back to us.
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They already *KNOW* about all the problems and conditions... its why the last guy quit, and they are looking for another sucker
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On 3/21/2012 12:39 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

They just want you to beg a little bit for the oncoming screwing. ;-p

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On 3/21/2012 12:10 PM, Steve wrote:

Apparently they are looking in the right place. ;-p

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Number "One" They would need to pay me for quote before any estimate is done or quote giving if they objecting to that tell them to get some other sucker.

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I wonder. Maybe ask for a few dollars "gas money" when providing estimates?
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Remember your wan is not running on farts from Mexican chilly or is it?

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There is a lot more than *just gas that has to be paid for... here is the short list;
401K
Health Insurance
Holiday Pay
Office Benefits
Sick Pay
Uniforms
Vacation Pay
Air Conditioning Equipment Maintenance
Building Repairs
Cleaning Service
Electric Utilities
Facility Mortgage Payments
Furniture
Gas/Oil Bill
Landscaping
Parts Storage Racks
Security System
Shop Tools
Callbacks
Miscellaneous Hardware
Air Conditioning License
Bad Debt
Business Licenses
Cash Reserves
Certification Tests
Chamber of Commerce Dues
Collections
Dealer Meetings
Interest Expense
Internet Access
Inventory
Inventory Control Costs
Inventory Financing Costs
Inventory Shrinkage
Invoices
Legal Services
Liability Insurance
Management Training
Mobile Phone Charges
Mobile Phones
Office Training
Other Associations
Overnight Mail
Property Insurance
Recycling
Subscriptions
Tax preparation
Technician Training
Trade Association Membership
Trade Show Attendance
Brochures
Charitable Contributions
Dealer Group Advertising
Door Hangers
Home And Garden Shows
Magnets
Postcards
Newspaper Advertising
Other Advertising
Outdoor Advertising
Patches
Radio Advertising
Sales Commissions
Service Club Dues
Warranties
Website
Yellow Pages
Yellow Book
Youth Sports Team Sponsorships
Accounting
Calculators And Adding Machines
Computer System Maintenance
Computers
Copier
Copies
Fax Machine
Files And File Cabinets
Network
Office Supplies
Phone Bill
Phone System
Postage
Postal Equipment
Printing
Software
Stamps And Pads
Telephone Bill
Telephone Equipment
Training Equipment
Trash And Disposal
Water Bill
Technician Pay
Federal Taxes
Local School Taxes
Local Taxes
Municipal Property Tax
Other property Taxes
Sales Tax
Social Security Taxes
State Taxes
Unemployment Insurance
Worker's Comp
Gasoline
Ladders
Radios
Tires
Tools
Truck Decals
Truck Depreciation
Truck Insurance
Truck Inventory
Truck Maintenance
Truck Shelves
Trucks
Profit
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For sure, and my wan needs to be repaired, now and again.
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On 3/22/2012 8:21 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

More then that! After all, Body shops charge for estimates. Its a good way to find out how quickly they will make payments if at all. Tell them that you will deduct the estimate costs from whatever actual profitable contract work they give you. It does sound like they are niggling and chipping cheap.

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Time is money and unless this is a prime deal (does not sound like it is) you get paid to show up and advise.
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Timeless, and excellent advice.
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Time is money and unless this is a prime deal (does not sound like it is) you get paid to show up and advise.
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On Mar 21, 9:48am, "Stormin Mormon"

Just give them one lump sum price for everything otherwise theyll try and get you to just do a few of them that are virtually unreachable and theyll do the rest. Tell them its the only way you quote it. Walk from it if they give you a hard time. Some jobs are not worth it and especially if your safety is exasterbated from dangerous working conditions.
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I had to look up http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exasterbation
I don't think my Bishop would approve of that. Unsafe, you know?
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Walk from it if they give you a hard time. Some jobs are not worth it and especially if your safety is exasterbated from dangerous working conditions.
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My position with the company, each job has to be quoted, on its own merits. And, you are so right about safety. What good is a filter job, if I fall off a ladder, and end up in the hospital?
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Just give them one lump sum price for everything otherwise theyll try and get you to just do a few of them that are virtually unreachable and theyll do the rest. Tell them its the only way you quote it. Walk from it if they give you a hard time. Some jobs are not worth it and especially if your safety is exasterbated from dangerous working conditions.
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Quote a base plus a variable factor (in your favor) for the unknowns and see what happens.
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Thank you for your very polite reply.
This post was from several weeks ago. I went to the store, took a bunch of pictures. Send them in. The company finally decided to drop the account.
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Quote a base plus a variable factor (in your favor) for the unknowns and see what happens.
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