I wasn't talking about the pans under the coils, I was talking about hte
coils themselves and the tin tubesheets on the ends of the coils. When the
tubing wall thickness is no more than .025 inch, then it doesn't take much
to pierce the tubing. Rust on the tube sheets will do that just fine.
That's what was happening with the CARRIER package unit I just repaired.
The tubesheet(s) were rusted fairly bad. But the refrigerant leak on the
coil was up higher in the coil and mid tube away from the base pan and
tubesheets. Rusting tubesheets had little to do with it.
You told the story.. Goodman had to furnish millions of HVAC equipment
in a short period of time. Their warranty is good but slow due to
shortages of parts and the personal to process it. Can you imagine the
massive effort to produce millions of product, when your geared for
hundreds of thousands?
With Goodman being the hands down low price leader; Goodman has been
the #1 choice here on the coast especially since Katrina. You see
them on million $ plus homes.
I have to love them because we get a great deal of service calls
because of them. They are very simple to work on as you all know.
But I do prefer to work on them when they have been installed by
As for us installing them; we were forced to after the storm due to
the low price. But we don't anymore. Payne with their package
pricing is about the same price. Depending on tonage Payne can be
lower in price.
Any brand can and will have problems but the one thing that keeps us
from installing Goodman anymore is poor warranty parts availability.
Especially coils. We have had several occasions where we had to wait
up to 12 weeks for a warranty coil. On each occasion we called all
the local distributors and there was not a coil to be had in the
country. I have to assume that they batch their factory for
efficiency and this causes the supply disruptions. If anyone knows
some secret that I don't know to help us get coils quicker, I am all
Nice to see some people in your profession can speak civilly. Thanks for
your response and thanks to the OP for cross-posting. Very informative.
Why don't you just 'fix' the coil. It's copper. It's relatively easy to
remove, pressurize, locate, repair, and reinstall, dehydrate, and charge.
Just recently I had to fix a CARRIER 48SS package unit, and an older Day &
Night. [Leaking evaporators.] What I find funny is I haven't had to fix
any Goodman's but, SUMMIT, ASPEN have been popular and RHEEM's seem to be
top on the list last year for leaks.
Goodman is rated LAST in a poll by 67000 by Consumer Reports.. Eat
on that Khack ,, you aint no pro KJpro, u a hack bosso. A
Wow... are we getting mad... just because you can't handle FACTS... there's
no need to get your blood pressure up.
Naw, these were older coils before the "N" series ..... when plastic
[fiberglass] pans weren't out yet. But for the sake of argument, we had
several brand new 5 ton ADP [Lennox] coils with leaky pans [craked] from the
factory. Wasn't fun changing them out either to new pans. After that, we
were opening the boxes on the dock before accpeting them.
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