from AP __"Ozone-Friendly Chemicals Lead to Warming

By JOHN HEILPRIN - Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON(AP) Cool your home, warm the planet. When more than two dozen countries undertook in 1989 to fix the ozone hole over Antarctica, they began replacing chloroflourocarbons in refrigerators, air conditioners and hair spray.
But they had little idea that using other gases that contain chlorine or fluorine instead also would contribute greatly to global warming.
CFCs destroy ozone, the atmospheric layer that helps protect against the sun's most harmful rays, and trap the earth's heat, contributing to a rise in average surface temperatures.
In theory, the ban should have helped both problems. But the countries that first signed the Montreal Protocol 17 years ago failed to recognize that CFC users would seek out the cheapest available alternative.
The chemicals that replaced CFCs are better for the ozone layer, but do little to help global warming. These chemicals, too, act as a reflective layer in the atmosphere that traps heat like a greenhouse.
That effect is at odds with the intent of a second treaty, drawn up in Kyoto, Japan, in 1997 by the same countries behind the Montreal pact. In fact, the volume of greenhouse gases created as a result of the Montreal agreement's phaseout of CFCs is two times to three times the amount of global-warming carbon dioxide the Kyoto agreement is supposed to eliminate.
This unintended consequence now haunts the nations that signed both U.N. treaties.
Switzerland first tried in 1990 to sound an alarm that the solution for plugging the ozone hole might contribute to another environmental problem. The reaction?
"Nothing, or almost," said Blaise Horisberger, the Swiss representative to U.N.-backed Montreal treaty. "We have been permanently raising this issue. It has been really difficult." ________________________________________________________
In other words, we made SO much money the first time, lets do it one more time?
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Global warming is caused by many factors, not just a/c equipment. The reporter seems to suggest it would have made more sense to do nothing. It may not have been the perfect solution, but by his own admission these replacement chemicals are better for the ozone layer. Without that layer, we all die.
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And with Global warming we will all roast have BBq on Lolaw DIDO
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Lolaw?? Is that the name of your planet?
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And with Global warming are you ready for barbeque
DIDO
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I like my longpig medium-rare, please.
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There are more chlorine atoms released by a single volcanic eruption than all the chlorine produced on earth by man.
Is it not ironic that the phase out of various types of "Freon" are in correlation with Dupont's patent running out?
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Another conspiracy!! There are lots of companys that make refrigerants, not just Dupont.
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Just curious... didn't they get a license on the patent from Dupont?
There are lots of companies that make PCs and run Windows, but they have a license from Intel and Microsoft.
Regardless, the whole refrigerant thing, SEER rating requirements, etc. are all just politics. It's just like the oil companies, bus manufacturers and rubber tire industry did in the 60's to eliminate streetcars in favor of diesel busses. They persuaded local governments to do away with streetcars. The streetcars were an efficient system for 100 years.
It also strikes me in a bad way that the oil companies, at a time of record profits, aren't taking the lead on production of alternate energy sources utilizing proven modern technology. If they did, they would maintain a leading position in their industry. Instead they squash new technology in favor of black gold. They give lip service to alternate energy sources, but they really aren't working toward it. If big business wants to bring something to market, they have proven they can do it in a pretty quick fashion. It shouldn't take decades to make changes that are inevitable in the long run.
Politics, politics, politics...
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:51:56 -0400, "Murdentech" <j. murden@ insight bb.com> wrote:>Politics, politics, politics...
It's just a gobal warning. It's not to be taken searlessly.
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And there is a reason that those clorine molucles dont have the same effect. Its an old arguement that doesnt stand up to scientific fact.
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