bulges and "hot spots" inside 20 year old furnace...do I really need new one?

If I were Nick, I'd next ask: Do you have any evidence *other* than claims made on the website of a company selling the high-priced detectors?

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Smitty Two
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Hi, Have a second opinion and if I were you, I'd plan for a replacement furnace. Sounds like you are trying to get last drop out of 20 year old inefficient furnace on today's standard. Remember Murphy's law. Things like that will fail on coldest day when techs are busiest. You can't even save some money then being in a big rush.

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Tony Hwang

Name one cheap $30 detector that protects against low level CO poisoning.

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<kjpro

Sure do... look up UL-2034 Then check the data on acceptable alarm levels. Now find a normal big box store that carries anything *but* UL listed detectors. Name one of those detectors that sound an alarm when the CO sensor fails. Most people don&#39;t understand that they need to be replaced after a few years.

It a false sense of security, PERIOD.

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<kjpro

exchanger....can a

It may be the heaviest, but it&#39;s not like its a 1/4 inch thick.

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<kjpro

Do bulges or curves in the metal of the heat exchanger mean it is about to crack or not? Yes or no?

J.

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nospamever

Maybe you should take this over to alt.answers.magic8ball.

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Smitty Two

No

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<kjpro

- It may be the heaviest, but it&#39;s not like its a 1/4 inch thick

Dunno...it was a 1950-ish Perfection gas fired forced air. From exterior of the heat exchanger, it certainly appeared and felt, like the unit was pretty thick.

In an earlier post, someone said (about the 20 YO Carrier) "The burner tubes are inside the heat exchanger". On my perfection, the burner was below the heat exchanger in it&#39;s own compartment. The burner was, I don&#39;t know, about a 9" x 9" plate with over a hundred (?) flames.

The heat exchanger pictured towards the bottom of this site looks like an absolute wimp compared to the rough surfaced, solid looking heat exchanger in my old furnace.

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DerbyDad03

Usually this is a sympton of your wife about ready to scream out another mans name during sex. Then the house blows up. Bubba

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Bubba

hehe. 95% of the population (I made that percentage up on guesstimate) doesn&#39;t have a clue that an "average" CO detector might as well just be a dim night light plugged in the wall. At least you can tell when a night light goes bad. Bubba

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Bubba

-- 95% of the population (I made that percentage up on guesstimate) ...

Did you know that 93.7% off all statistics are made up on the spot?

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DerbyDad03

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Sounds like a manufacturers conversion from oil to gas.

Sounds Like an oil to gas conversion. Midco burners did quite well through to 60&#39;s-70&#39;s. :-)

In the early 60&#39;s, there were quite a few companies that designed their own conversion burner (or fuel burner of choice) as they we&#39;re sitting on a cargo loads of oil furnace chambers that were not moving anytime soon. As Natural-Gas lines were being run like mad through the big cities, Gas furnace design was changing from gravity units w/ add-on blowers, to the typical 80%&#39;ers of the 1960&#39;s-80&#39;s.

Mind you, back then there were 1,000 times (WAG) the number of furnace and boiler manufacturers in the US. Many were very popular/well known but only encompassing a very small region of the country.

Some of these are still running today, due to the lack of the Planned-Obsolescence concept, and the focus was mostly "Ours is better/stronger/faster than yours".

-zero

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-zero

If it was a conversion, it was certainly done by the manufacturer, as you stated. The manual included instructions for the installed gas valve and side mounted blower.

The original gas valve had a flip-up tab so you could manually operate the gas valve during a power outage. The manual listed the duty cycle for operating the unit without a blower. I doubt the comparatively wimpy heat exchangers of today&#39;s furnaces could handle running without a blower.

Wouldn&#39;t you know that early one winter the gas valve started acting up, so I placed a service a call. They had to replace the gas valve, and "No, you can&#39;t have one that can be operated manually. They&#39;re illegal now." So what happens during March of same winter? A major ice storm in upstate NY. We were without power - and now without heat due to the "upgraded" gas valve - for 5 days.

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DerbyDad03

It should be illegal to sell them without a disclaimer.

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<kjpro

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