Any of you 'Top Shelf' Pros?

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I hope the next time you fly, the pilot is a backyard mechanic who does all his own repairs....
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Respectfully, Bob

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Bob_Loblaw wrote:

As I understand it, the Concorde was brought down by a piece of metal that came off of the Continental flight before it on the runway... something not properly installed? An inspection skipped?
Planes are usually serviced in an environment where there are multiple hands working and multiple eyes looking. There is the added responsibility of many lives at stake. A home repair is far from a controlled enviornment--it's an easy target. And in most cases the worst that can happen is some homeowner gets cold or material gets damaged etc. It's the same reason there are so many poor car repair stories--relatively harmless, easy targets.
Ever change your own brakes on a car? Wonder why they are designed so damn foolproof? The hardest part is taking the rusted crap apart. If you manage to at least fit it together and tighten the bolts, it's safe... it may seize up and wear out your pads real fast, but it will "work". Even the car manufacturers know the difference between servicing cars and servicing planes... and which are more likely to attract the shady tradesmen...
I was amazed at how simple and foolproof the design of my furnace and auxiliary parts are. Clearly the new ones are designed to be quite easy--parts only fit one way, circuit boards are clearly marked, layouts are obvious... I can imagine that new installs are hard to screw up--and likely intentionally so. The industry obviously recognizes the number of crappy techs out there and is making it easier to have their products work as advertised.
Now, as for something that's getting older, is having problems, etc., I agree that a proper pro is the best person to service it. It's a case of mostly diagnosis--like a real good auto mechanic. However, it is exactly that same reason that leads to so many rip-offs--the pros know the diagnosis, they know the customers don't, and if they're sure the customer *can't* know, we have a clear invitation to rip-off. By calling the pro, you automatically admit that you don't have a clue.
Thankfully, with people like yourself and the modern easy-access to information, it is possible for a HO to at least try--certainly to learn. The irony is that the advice given here often contradicts the intention in the first place.
Peace, Dan
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Just as a small child will jump off a table into an adults arms. The danger is there and real,,, the child has no clue.

The HVAC industry has been pointed in the plug-n-play direction for years. If you think they are anything CLOSE to p-n-p at this time, you're gravely mistaken.

You're not well informed about this industry.

ANY dealership, only one, out of six or seven can operate as a mechanic. the others are parts changers and pretenders, much like the HVAC trade has become. HVAC is more like one in four at this time.

That's NOT a _pro_. That's a pretender/parts changer/rip-off artist.

That sounds like a personal/low self-esteem problem. ;o)
I Google, read and whatever I CAN do, before a purchase to better inform myself. If you don't watch out for yourself, who will???

Because it's the HVAC equivalent of self-medicating AND self-diagnoses by playing twenty-questions with your pharmacist and the real smart Asian girl down at the GNC. What could possibly go wrong there?
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I am really sorry for you Mr. Loblaw I think that you would make good Union guy a Leader if was one Company that would hire you. You know my friend that bull shit can go only so far and then it start to smell and does not wash. You love to put people down when ever you disagreed with them what ever they have to say, Tough My friend You can sit on it as I said before it does not wash From Dido
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So, in other words, you think people should diagnose and fix their own furnaces....
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If person knows what he or she is doing
We should leave that up to then I will not encourage or discourage
Some people like to tinker with things that they should not
There are not babe's so let them decide for them self,
But no one should called them names for trying
Yes it could be dangerous but as I said they are not babes
Putting gas in you car it also dangerous but people doing it
Every day and specially in the state with self service is permissible
Gentlemen think about that. I am not saying that every body should
Work on they furnaces some have capability and some don't
I am sure that some people have problem even plug-in simple
Extension cord into wall socket never the less work on furnace.
But it is not up to us to tell them hey stupid idiot or any other name
That may come to you mine don't do it, I am sorry but that is not
Very nice even if he is idiot
From Dido
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Most ppl dont know the mechanics of furnaces. The problem arises when "Mr Know-it-all" services his own oil furnace. Screws it up real bad, sells the home and the next homeowner suffers the consequences of "Mr Know-it-alls" money saving no knowledge techniques. Know what you're doing or leave it alone. Cant get any simpler than that. Bubba

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Bubba wrote:

It is my understanding that anyone buying a home should hire an inspector prior or at least bring along someone that knows enough to have a good look at things... after all, we test drive our cars and they cost a lot less (some of them!)...
Know what you're doing or don't have a look? That's funny. According to the experts (and there are many), most people aren't very good parents and fail in many areas such as improper discipline, etc.--yet most kids grow up just fine... we don't know all there is to know about child psychology--why bother trying? In fact, how many biologists and human body specialists in the group? But we're all trying to screw anyway...
Stick shift (well, you Americans seem to be following your advice here and not even trying). Tying shoes. Investing. We have the ability to learn--and the instinct to know when we need help. There would be no such thing as a furnance if we didn't encourage both.
Peace, Dan

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So, the tech tried something and left? That doesn't sound good. You'd think he would leave when he got it running.
Replaced a burner? Why do I guess probably pulled the burner out, and cleaned it?
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