I hear you can do that in Illinois, or that use to be the case - maybe
other places. The contract says no tenant repairs or improvements
will be deducted from the rent. Of course that wouldn't matter if the
contract was in IL because the law overrules it, but I don't believe
that's the case here.
Complaining about newsgroup grammer and spelling... Why am I replying?
Well, my CLEP w/essay was above the 99th &... (that was standardized
based on test results from people who just completed English 101).
Didn't take English 101...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 08:47:43 -0700, carie firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
This is a standard juvenile pissing contest, and you have both
succeeded in drenching each other, as well as yourselves. This would
be a really good time for both of you to take a time out, before
somebody drowns, or the rest of us die laughing at you.
Wow. I'm impressed. Not.
Is your AC working yet?
Have you figured out how to get it fixed now?
Or are you still waiting for your letter, envelope and stamp to fix the AC?
Not too smart, and still wrapped far too tight.
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:41:55 -0700, carie email@example.com wrote:
No, I'm not being sarcastic. It certainly wasn't working the night
before. It may not have worked 10 minutes earlier, and it may not be
working ten minutes later, but if there was an 18 degree differential,
it was working then.
I didn't say he fixed it. I said it was working then.
It's very hard to fix something when it is working. That's why Click
and Clack, or anyone, tell customers to leave their cars at the shop
the night before, when people have cars that work badly when first
started, but work ok later. Some people will go to a service station
and tell them it's hard to start in the morning, can you fix it? But
they very often can't, because it's either not morning anymore or the
person drove 3 miles to the service station and the engine is warm
now, and it's working fine.
But even things that don't require warming up can have intermittent
problems. (Long story snipped before it was completed. Just take my
Even if the spec sheet says it should be 20, it's stilll working
pretty well, and if were able to stay that way, it would still cool
your apartment to the temp you want.
He may well have been incompetent, but your relationship is with your
landlord and not with this guy or the AC company.
You can make notes and calmly tell the landlord that he was ready to
leave after making two measurements with the voltmeter, but always be
I've lived in several apartments and one in Brooklyn NY for 11 years.
Actually one year in 4C and 10 years in 5A. The building was a nice
building, and the old woman landlady sold it after I had been there 3
or 4 years, to a European immigrant. I already had a policy of doing
my own repairs, and the aparment needed little anyhow. But I couldn't
do plaster and when there was a leak or something in the bathroom
above mine, I let him send his guy to repair the plaster, and it
looked like the icing on a cake, with all the hills and swirls.
Pitiful. He also thought he was a plumber and tried to fix the big
oil burner/boiler (6 stories, 49 units, steam heat) but he really
didn't know how. (There was a bucket in the furance room half full of
oil where he seemed unable to stop an oil drip in one of the pipes
related to the furnace. And other things.)
He also tried to evict me illegally. I was 2 weeks late on the rent
and he thought or said he thought I was 6 weeks late. He also only
gave me 48 hours notice, on a FRiday morning when I was going away for
the weekend, instead of starting with the required 30-days notice,
which he just skipped altoghether. So Monday morning, I didnt' go to
work, and I was inside the aparment with the door locked and chained,
and I wouldn't open the door for the city marshall, who had come to
evict me. I insisted on talking to the landlord first and he wasn't
at his office (before cell phones) but they called him and he called
me, and I convinced him I he had proceeded illegally as I say above,
and that if he did get me out, I was going to win in court for moving
charges, storage charges, plus the illegal eviction. (You can do this
with a good chance of success in NYC where tenants have rights. But in
almost all small cities and most big cities, tenants have fewer rights
than in NYC. So check before doing anything.)
I ended up agreeing to leave the apartment and go with his guy Friday
to my bank where I would get the money to pay that months's rent, and
to pay 3 or 4 hundred dollars to the marshall who also had to pay the
moving van for showing up even though they didn't move my stuff.
Did I yell at the landlord or curse him? Did I ever do that? No,
because those things would have not helped me.
I did however, withhold my rent on two occasions that we didn't have
heat, and of the three times he took me to court, once I broke even,
once I was awarded 100 dollars iirc, and once 200 dollars for the
electricity I used to make up for the heat he didn't give me.
If you don't live in New York City, it is very dangerous to withhold
rent. In most places you will get evicted for this, no matter how
valid your claim might be. You may win money later but your claim
will not stop your eviction, which will go much quicker than in NY as
well. This is true even for heat, but for air conditioning, people
have almost no rights, partly because very few people will die without
AC, but many die without heat, and partly because AC is relatively
new, and didn't exist or wasn't very common when most tenants rights
laws were written, several decades ago.
Well, finally, I was ready to move, and I told him I would move if he
gave me 1000 dollars (part to make up for what I shouldn't have had to
pay the marshall, and part for the interest on my secuity deposit for
11 years, which he was obliged by NYS law to give me but I was pretty
sure he woudln't, and part for aggravation.
And he agreed. And his lawyer told him not to give me the money until
after I moved out. And I told them I wouldn't move out until I had
the money. (I must admit. I didn't tell them I had bought a house
already in Baltimore, and accepted a job, and was leaving for sure. I
told him I had found an apartment in Queens, so he would think I might
not move after all.)
And Alex, the landlord, told the lawyer and his guy Friday (who told
me this story), "You can trust Michael".
He trusted me because I had never lied to him, I had never cursed him,
I had never yelled at him or insulted him, I had never called him at
home (even though neighbors had, some in the middle of the night, and
they had given me his home number)
Even when we didn't have heat in the middle of the night, I used my
electric heater, and didn't call him at home. I also treated him and
anyone who answered the phone with politeness and respect, no matter
what I was actually thinking about him.
I mentioned a moving van above, now snipped. Don't expect a moving
van. In NYC, LLs are required when evicting someone to put their
stuff in a moving van and take it to a storage location, where they
can redeem it, by paying the moving and storage, I think.
IN most places in the US and elsewhere, all they do is take your stuff
and put it on the sidewalk. Where it may be rained on, or people can
I was in Westminster Md, a town of maybe 5,000 near here, and
someone's stuff was in the corner of a parking lot of an apartment
building with 3 long police sawhorses around it, and a poster stapled
to each one that said something like, Police property, or Do not
remove. This was meant to keep other people than the tenant from
stealing the stuff, and that's better than most places, but I wouldn't
count on it.
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