$5,000 for installation of Trane 15i A/C? Reasonable?

[Pete C.]

Since when has outlawing *anything* actually eliminated it?

Pete C.

[Stormin Mormon]

Lets look at a couple examples. Outlawing murder.... did that help? Washington DC and New York City outlawed private citizen poesession of handguns. Did that help? Nationwide, the US outlawed cocaine, heroin, crack cocaine. Did that help?

[Al Moran]

So your point is that outlawing stupidity would not help you in the least then?

[Danny G.]

You can still buy it there is just no demand.

For example: United Refrigeration

[Xeno Chauvin]

Or wait until they have R-410B and then you'll really get f***ed. Let's face it you have to have PLANNED obsolescence in products or we'd all be out of work. Yeah I know the "new" refrigerant is good for the environment.......the PAYCHECK environment. Xeno

[James "Cubby" Culbertson]

Wrong. My unit is a 13 SEER.

[Noon-Air]

got model numbers?? BTW...what you gonna do for warranty repairs when the installer goes belly up working for free??

[Ignoramus3077]

I thought that warranty is offered by manufacturers and warranty work can be done by any authorized reps. Am I mistaken?

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[James "Cubby" Culbertson]

Sure. RCBA048 Coil. RAND048JAZ 4 ton, 13 SEER condenser.

I hardly believe they'll be going belly up any time soon. They've been in business here for over 35 years. (or is it 40. Don't remember but either way they are one of the most respected outfits here in town). Just what sort of labor rates are you using anyway?

[Noon-Air]

OK.... you did get bent over.....

13 SEER condenser with a 10 SEER coil... the coil should have been an RCHJ-48A2 or an RCFJ-AU4821AC to actually get 13 SEER

My labor rates have not changed in almost 2 years, but your right, I do need to raise my rates due to the rising costs of parts, materials. fuel, insurance, utilities, groceries, etc.

[Al Moran]

When are you going to go away?

[James "Cubby" Culbertson]

I don't have the expansion valve numbers handy but what I do remember is the combination gave me a SEER between 12-14. I haven't gotten my first electric bill yet so time will tell. All I know is the system works great and I didn't get bent over. Either way, the parts are relatively the same price wise (certainly not thousands apart) so I still think $6-7k is still too much. Keep in mind I did my own electrical....which knocked off $500.

[Noon-Air]

Geese... you just can't seem to get your story straight..... if it has an expantion valve on it, its either an RCHJ or an RCGJ, NOT an RCBA. The RCBA-048 is 21 inches wide, the RCHJ/RCGJ-48A2 coils are 24 inches wide. I suppose that you are still using a one-speed furnace with it?? To actually

*GET* 13 SEER with any of the Rheem "M" coils require a variable speed blower....but you already knew that. As I said, a RAND-048JAZ, with the *correct* coil and furnace combination, *installed* is $6,000 - 7,000.

[Danny G.]

No you are correct. BUT he has a valid point.

I can only speak for myself, but I do not want to eat the extra time (claim forms ...) on warranty repairs unless I know the customer.

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[James "Cubby" Culbertson]

Well at the end of the day, I know what I've got is working just fine and for half of what you seem to think it should have cost. All the more reason to get more than one bid. I'm moving on to better conversations.......

[Noon-Air]

yeah yeah.... all you got was half of what you paid half price for. You got it cheap, you didn't get it right.

[aka-SBM]

I love those...the: "what *I* have is working just fine" units....

Normally, they call back later and ask if the original quote to make it rights good still.

BTW....dunno how many of you got your new price sheets this week...thanks to copper going up, so did equipment....25% across the board.

[Danny G.]

expantion valve on it, its either an RCHJ or an RCGJ,

inches wide. I suppose that you are still using a

"M" coils require a variable speed blower....but you

*installed* is $6,000 - 7,000.

half of what you seem to think it should have cost.

conversations.......

good still.

copper going up, so did equipment....25% across the

I sure hope that's not true. 25% geeze... What copper have to go up price 500% or something to do that.

[Noon-Air]

I'll have to check with my supplier... they had a 10% increase last month.

[Bob Pietrangelo]

The warranty is originally assigned to the contractor that purchased it. If you are unhappyt with that contractor, you can have it transferred to another Trane Contractor for $25