When to plant for fall crops?

I would like to put in some late cabbages and potatoes (and maybe a few root veggies) for fall crops. I live in the mid Willamette Valley, south of Salem Oregon. Does anyone know when I should actually plant cabbages? The only info I could find was to plant "during the heat of mid-summer". That is a big fuzzy - I'm guessing towards the end of August?
And, how about potatoes? Is August too late to plant them for fall/winter crop?
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Ook wrote:

Here (south-east NC) we have been known to plant as late as the end of Aug, first part of Sept, for our fall/winter harvest. Of course, normally it doesn't drop below freezing (or even get to freezing temps) until mid-Dec.
Usually, we plant our fall crops (peas, peas, and more peas & some cabbage) whenever the summer squash & cukes play-out. (till them in and replant in those areas) Collards & turnips are usually our winter crop. We have re-planted potatoes in Aug last year (not sure what part, that part of the year was a blur for me, was caring for my grandpa then), but they didn't fair as well as spring crop potatoes did.
Of course, you never really know til you try it, i guess....
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On Jul 27, 6:15 pm, "Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> wrote:

Ook If I recall, the Willametter Valley is hills/valleys? So there is the microclimate influence: south and west slopes vs east and north slopes and so on. If you could locate your local Cooperative Extension Service, they could give you specific information. Emilie
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:15:38 -0700, "Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> wrote:

Compliments of Wiliam Wagner in msg id:
Late Planting Guide From Seed From an Old Organic Magazine
Frost date is Oct 15 Last frost May 15
Your dates may differ due to your climate
July 4 100 days till Oct 15
Frost tender
85 days Snap Beans by July 25 97 days Corn by July 4 86 days Cucumbers by July 25 110 days Tomatoes by June 25 81 ays Squash by Aug 1
Survive Light Frost
90 days Cauliflower by July 25 84 days Chinese Cabbage by July 25 74 days Beets by Aug 15 113 days Endive by June 25 63 days Kohlrabi by Aug 30 76 days Loose Leaf Lettuce by Aug 1r 96 days Head Lettuce by July 4 70 days Peas by Aug 15
Survive Heavy Frost
99 days Cabbage by July 4 85 days Carrots by July 25 70 days Chard by Aug 15 90 days Collards by July 4 95 days Broccoli by July 4 120 days Brussels Sprouts by June 15 95 days Kale by July 4 42 days Radishes Summer by Sept 5 72 days Radishes Winter by Aug 15 64 days Spinach by Aug 25 51 days Turnips by Sept 15
HTH Charlie
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:15:38 -0700, Ook <Ook> wrote:

http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/calendar/#august http://extension.oregonstate.edu/catalog/html/pnw/pnw548 /
Got a greenhouse for them?
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On Jul 27, 9:15 pm, "Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> wrote:

Last year I planted cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage and collards in mid September and the garden was a great success mostly from the aspect that there was no insect damage. I was harvesting right through the winter by adding a cloche over them if a hard freeze was expected. Interestingly, I have one collard plant and one cabbage that came up on their own this spring and as expected both became riddled by worm holes. But the latest batch of leaves are remaining insect free which leads me to assume that now would be a good time to begin my winter garden. Just one problem, my summer vegetables are producing and I don't wish to pull them up and replant with the winter varieties. I have decided however to add another raised garden in order to begin my winter garden. Cheers, Johnny www.greatgardens.org
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That is the problem I have. No room for fall crops. Tomatillos are six feet high (3-4 feet tall my arse!) and produce until frost, corn won't be out for another month (maybe I'll start cabbages in flats and move into garden when corn is gone?). Squash and cukes and tomatoes produce until frost, etc. Peppers, eggplants....good until frost. Dang...everything produces gonzo bonkers until the frost hits. How large were your cabbage heads? How well did they develop in the cold weather?
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On Jul 28, 4:46 pm, "Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> wrote:

Please look at the photos at http://www.raised-garden-bed.com/Chapt7.html and you will see the size of the cauliflowers and cabbage. Both were the tastiest I have ever eaten. I fertilize exclusively with turkey litter that is sold for fertilizing golf courses. I have five raised gardens and plan to add two eight footers within the month. Cheers, Johnny
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"Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> wrote:

If you know any Old Believers to talk to, ask them. They'll know.
The village next door to our ranch is OB's who came from the W. Valley (by way of China, Turkey, Brazil, etc.). When the gals in the village plant their spuds & cabbage, I plant.
Before the Russians moved here, all of the homestead women said you couldn't grow raspberries here, because our elevation is too high. The Russians moved in. They all planted huge sections of their yards to raspberries. The plants made huge crops. Who knew? Now everyone grows raspberries : )
Jan, near Vosnesenka, Alaska
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