Try Kerry for giving aid and comfort to the enemy

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"Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
Kerry met in 1970, by his own admission, with delegations from the North Vietnamese communist government and discussed how the Vietnam War should be stopped.
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Looked at the tags clothing lately? Vietnam's becoming a happy little capitalist country, regardless of their government. It probably could've gotten there about 30 years faster without our so-called "help". Since capitalism is what we WANT to see as a worldwide system (supposedly), Kerry may have done us a favor, if his efforts in any way sped things up.
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When Kerry was asked by committee chairman Senator J. William Fulbright how he proposed to end the war, the former Navy lieutenant said it should be ended immediately and mentioned his involvement in peace talks in Paris.
"I have been to Paris," Kerry said. "I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points . . . ."
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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (IntarsiaCo) wrote:

Right. He was present at the Peace Conference as a speaker & as an audience member. In 1919, Franklin D. Roosevelt attended the Paris Peace Conference. It has always been valued by world leaders of merit, & President Woodrow Wilson attended the Paris Peace Conference in 1918 rather than just sending deligates. Bush's deplorable choice for the US ambassador to Iraq, John Negroponte, attended Paris Peace Conferences (which Negroponte's royal-blooded wife's father was in an earlier generation always involved with). Negroponte sometimes spoke for Nixon or at least for the National Security Council under Henry Kissinger. Does that make Henry a commy pinko too? Even the Dr. Strangeloves of America EVENTUALLY wanted the war to end -- & the Paris Peace Conference was THE place to be if someone was even pretending to care.
It takes a very special brand of Machievallian liars to twist the 100 years of importance for this conference into such delusional fantasies as you badly paraphrased from the Swiftnuts Bushleaguers:

He had no such meetings with with delegation(s) from Vietnam, North or South, yet you've badly paraphgrased O'Neill's lie that he met with a delegation of communists for a traitorous "secret" discussion against American interests. Kerry's participation in a peace conference that Nguyen Thi Binh (of SOUTH Vietnam) also attended is NOT tantamount to a meeting with even one communist delegate, let alone multiple delegationS as you invent. You couldn't get the year right because you mixed up that lie for the other Swiftnuts lie that Vietnam Vets Against the War, for whom Kerry spok in 1970, was a communist delegation. With the "by his own admission" bit you misquote the original Swiftnut fabrications which pretended only that Michael Meehan, not Kerry, confirmed that Kerry met personally with Madame Binh; it would have been great if such a great woman condescended to meet with such a young Kerry, but it never happened, & neither Meehan nor Kerry ever made such an empty boast.
It would have been a good idea to have met with Binh, but Kerry just wasn't at that time important enough for such a meeting during such an large international peace conference. She was at that time Foreign Minister of South Vietnam, & her country's leading feminist activist (destined to become Vice President in 1992, reelected 1997--somehow I doubt you even realized Vietnam has elections). So it was not only a good idea but the only intelligent choice to be capable of listening to her for any chance of understanding the issues of the day. As part of an international audience, Kerry listened.
As a McCarthy era style slur, this one's second rate, & relies on the abject ignorance of anyone who would think the name of Binh is boogy-man enough because she was a communist. That Kerry would listen to Binh is no more or less importance to his listening to the major presentation made by Quakers who had dozens of representatives present. So why has she been feted throughout Europe, Central Asia, & Asia Minor as a great woman? Even in the Washington D.C. she was feted in 2002 for her for with the United Nations Conference on Children. Is all of India, the mid & near east, & Europe the collective enemies of America? Bush sometimes seems to think so, but no.
The French imprisoned her for three years in the 1950s, for her peace activism alongside students when she was a teacher. She became a leading advocate for implementation of the Geneva Agreement in Vietnam. It's true that President Bush does not respect the Geneva Convention & set up the Guantanamo Bay prison specifically to undermine Geneva, but that's because Bush is a evil man; it has never occurred to any other American President that the Geneva agreements should not be observed. Madame Binh's focus has always been on peace with special focus on the needs of women & children, winning the unqualified praise of Sweden's National UNICEF Committee's president; so Sweden's the enemy of America too. The French who once arrested her for intellectual activity came to admire this most admirable woman even though she had once been their opponent, & thus she was a welcome presence in Paris both before & after the 1971 Peace Conference.
Madame Binh also headed the Solidarity & Friendship Organization which sought, & obtained, better relationships with the United States. She has done much to make sure that the bones of MIAs were recovered & returned to the US, supporting joint Vietnamese/American searches of crash sites & graves for the repatriation of more than 480 sets of bones.
But she is at the same time concerned for Vietnam's one-million living victims of Agent Orange. Recently Madame Binh was a ricipient of the Royal Danish Embassy Medal which she received from Ambassador of Denmark, Bjarne H Sorensen, for her work for children disfigured by war or by Agent Orange birth defects, raising millions of dollars for plastic surgery or prosthetics. Is Denmark now the enemy of America?
Somehow this one great woman has become a whole delegation of evil Viet Cong in the minds of crazy-ass far-right lunatics.
Frankly, Mother Theresa, with her fascination for & friendships with dictators who slaughtered thousands, is easier to despise than Madame Binh. To demonize Madame Binh & through her Kerry is the equivalent of demonizing Mandela as an ex-con, & through him anyone who ever tried to bring peace to South Africa.
Anyone who despises the Paris peace conferences is an ass. Anyone who despises Nguyen Thi Binh is a fool. Anyone who believes a twenty-something Kerry was a big enough cheese to score a personal meeting with her, let alone to collude in traitorous discussions, is a liar with no interest in history or humanity. Which begins to look like the only sort of moral cretin who would support the likes of George W. Bush -- though no wonder that lies are essential to make someone like Georgie Porgie look any good.
-paghat the ratgirl
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Thanks, paghat. You are always so articulate and erudite. I have been avoiding listening to the Kerry hate-mongers because that is precisely what they are, and I always look to motivation before giving anything credence.
You've just helped me understand far more clearly how imperative it is that we get rid of Bush!
BTW, I do believe that Nguyen (pronounced noo-win) is the last name and Binh (pronounced bing) is the first. Asians reverse the name order. I teach a handful of Vietnamese-American kids and quite a few are named "Nguyen". Also, Vietnamese women usually go by their father's name, so her name is probably not even Madame Nguyen!
Thanks again.
P.S. How'd this get into a garden group, anyway?
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By the way, I assume you realize that all this energy is wasted. If you actually believe Vietnam was a threat to us, then you believe the existence of a polar bear in the Arctic is a reason for the mayor of Miami to have his office surrounded by armored vehicles 24x7.
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Isn't that what real Americans do, waste energy, drive huge SUV's, abuse third world countries and exert hegemonic control over the Muslim world?
But that's for another discussion, the topic is Kerry, treason, aid and comfort to the communist enemy and his failure to explicitly apologize like Fonda did.
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As Americans, it's our patriotic duty to improve this country in every way possible. Why should Kerry apologize for doing what he felt was best at the time?
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Why did Hanoi Jane apologize for doing what she felt was best at the time?
Patriotic duty does not extend to giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
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Because she decided it was in her best interests to do so financially, considering her movie career and future plans to be a leg-warmer model.

Kerry points out atrocities. Nixon & Kissinger continue committing them.
Who's the asshole?
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What movie career after she apologized in 1988, Old Gringo, that 1989 blockbuster movie?
I believe she has had one more after that, and perhaps another in production to be released in 2005.
ROTFLMA
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Meanwhile, back in the real world, Kerry didn't apologize, and he was still elected to public office. Apparently, there are lots of voters who are able to think for themselves, rather than being sock puppets for bozos like Rush Limbaugh.
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Don't listen to the big man, but do watch C-Span and listen to NPR, is that OK with you? But then again, I don't have a lifelong subscription to The Guardian nor do I believe in Leninism (don't confuse that with Lennonism) and men from mars.
Apparently, when confronted with facts, not fictions, only disparaging accusations become appropriate, lame, very lame.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/kudlow/kudlow200410260846.asp
Kerry, Viet Cong and Osama, indeed
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Now there's a good source of unbiased news. Not. National Review is a magazine and book publisher focusing on international and political news and opinion from a conservative viewpoint.
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Did you read the article and check the references and citations? I believe they include the old grey lady and the wash/po. And, what is wrong about a conservative viewpoint, must a view only be liberal to be true? I know, they only good sources are CBS, Michael Moore and Paul Begala, 100% truthful, right?
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Anonny Moose wrote:

That was an unusually good article for Larry Kudlow. Of course it's biased. If you want unbiased, read _US News and World Report_. Boring.
A couple of thoughts that I've stolen from I-dont-remember-where that kind of sum up Bush and Kerry:
1) Bush has a plan, and Kerry has a plan to have a plan. 2) Bush was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple.
Best regards, Bob
P.S. John Edwards, and to a lesser extent Dick Chaney, scare me more than Kerry or Bush. President Chaney is scary; President Edwards is terrifying.
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What would be so bad about President Dougie Hauser? It'd be good to learn that now because after Kerry does his eight years, Dougie's next up.
-paghat the ratgirl
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Ahhh....the old "socialism" kneejerk reaction. Right out of the play book!
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Some people do for themselves, some expect the government to do for them cradle to grave, which side do you tend to favor? Are you of the entitlement ilk?
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